#FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE

[sharknado]

For example, you're saying that by level 70 it's *fine* that the games should be designed for someone who wouldn't use their core skills? I would disagree. If they haven't learned, either the game isn't teaching them, or they don't or can't learn, but some jobs (and we're talking about healers) have suffered as a result. Healer design shouldn't be based upon a level 70+ tank that needed to be "babied" because don't know their skills.

I don't agree but the game does. You don't need your job stone, job quests, proper skill usage to get into higher level instances. You can't even report no-stone, only if they explicitly do something bad like no-tanking or no-healing.

The game isn't teaching much. Sprout will run through absurd amount of dungeons and trials, slowly getting all the core mechanics but like there is no direct feedback, no do-mechanic-or-wipe in leveling content, they can get battle rez, hard carry through experienced tank or healer and so on. And "you don't pay my sub" people And you can't publicly parse or comment about it, logging is through obnoxious third party setups.

Thats the problem current tanks and healers look like they look. From one side they have to hard carry from the other they have to be more noob-proof and if you don't get noobs in group it's broken overpowered and healer can get semi-redundant. They spent Endwalker adding solo trust and fighting for those alleged solo FF players afraid of multiplayer... but they will hit multiplayer content anyways and I didn't saw any rush of some new type of sprouts.

[IDontPetLalas]

I don't agree but the game does. You don't need your job stone, job quests, proper skill usage to get into higher level instances. You can't even report no-stone, only if they explicitly do something bad like no-tanking or no-healing.

The game isn't teaching much. Sprout will run through absurd amount of dungeons and trials, slowly getting all the core mechanics but like there is no direct feedback, no do-mechanic-or-wipe in leveling content, they can get battle rez, hard carry through experienced tank or healer and so on. And "you don't pay my sub" people And you can't publicly parse or comment about it, logging is through obnoxious third party setups.

Thats the problem current tanks and healers look like they look. From one side they have to hard carry from the other they have to be more noob-proof and if you don't get noobs in group it's broken overpowered and healer can get semi-redundant. They spent Endwalker adding solo trust and fighting for those alleged solo FF players afraid of multiplayer... but they will hit multiplayer content anyways and I didn't saw any rush of some new type of sprouts.

OK, but what is point of sying "you don't agree but the game does". What does that really mean? I'm not trying to be difficult, I'm not sure of what your position is, that's all. Nothing you say surprises me, although I would disagree that logging necessitates public comments.

Are you saying "I don't like the approach, but I can deal with it" , or ""I'm kind of frustrated, and one day I'll likely walk away or change jobs"- it's hard to see where you are on a scale of 1-10, let's say where 10 is "I'm out of here, healers needed changes years ago".

[Kacho_Nacho]

*snippity snip*

Are you saying "I don't like the approach, but I can deal with it" , or ""I'm kind of frustrated, and one day I'll likely walk away or change jobs"- it's hard to see where you are on a scale of 1-10, let's say where 10 is "I'm out of here, healers needed changes years ago".

Even though your post was directed as Snarknado, I think you asked a great question. I'll paraphrase it. Where are we on a scale between 1-10 regarding healers? 1 being you don't like the current state of healers but still heal. 10 being you have changed jobs and never healing again.

I'd say I'm a 2. I'm participating in #FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE; but, enjoy being healer enough that I'm leveling white mage to heal friends and FC members.

[Shurrikhan]

Where are we on a scale between 1-10 regarding healers? 1 being you don't like the current state of healers but still heal. 10 being you have changed jobs and never healing again.

I'd say I'm a 2.

Maybe a 6? Though I think it's only that high because I'm only playing healer rather casually (mostly just to skip the 1-2 minute wait when queuing on tank instead for Ex roulette, which occurs regardless of AiN being tank) and there's been weirdly a lot of mistakes to help the party recover from in said runs. Granted, the same also raises DRK by an even higher margin, courtesy of TBNing others (from like 7 of "why is DRK still this mess?" to 3 of "well at least TBN is still pretty great" in fed-up-ness on some runs).

Now, if I actually thought my head-canon WHM had any chance of being introduced, it'd probably be ready never to touch a healer again until those reworks come through, but...

[Connor]

Where are we on a scale between 1-10 regarding healers? 1 being you don\\\\'t like the current state of healers but still heal. 10 being you have changed jobs and never healing.

Personally I’d say like 3 because I headcanon myself as a supporter playing Scholar

“Oh no! An AoE is coming! Quick, Eos, strengthen our allies’ magical defenses!”
*Eos rolls her eyes*
*you mitigated 10 damage*
“We did it Eos! We saved the party!”
*She lights a cigarette*

Sometimes I imagine party members giving ridiculously undeserved praise for my minor support actions.
“What a perfectly timed Sacred Soil! I felt so safe”
“Amazing shields, 10/10”
“Such powerful enhancing magicks!”
“Fey Illumination and Concitation? Truly genius!”
“I saw his fairy try to leave she looked sick of his shit”

…if I was a sane person? 14. Like 4 above what’s even possible lol

[IDontPetLalas]

Personally I’d say like 3 because I headcanon myself as a supporter playing Scholar

“Oh no! An AoE is coming! Quick, Eos, strengthen our allies’ magical defenses!”
*Eos rolls her eyes*
*you mitigated 10 damage*
“We did it Eos! We saved the party!”
*She lights a cigarette*

Sometimes I imagine party members giving ridiculously undeserved praise for my minor support actions.
“What a perfectly timed Sacred Soil! I felt so safe”
“Amazing shields, 10/10”
“Such powerful enhancing magicks!”
“Fey Illumination and Concitation? Truly genius!”
“I saw his fairy try to leave she looked sick of his shit”

…if I was a sane person? 14. Like 4 above what’s even possible lol

OK, the next time I summon my fairy I'm going to have a really hard time getting this image out of my head.

[CaptainLagbeard]

Even though your post was directed as Snarknado, I think you asked a great question. I'll paraphrase it. Where are we on a scale between 1-10 regarding healers? 1 being you don't like the current state of healers but still heal. 10 being you have changed jobs and never healing again.

I'd say I'm a 2. I'm participating in #FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE; but, enjoy being healer enough that I'm leveling white mage to heal friends and FC members.

I think somewhere in middle, I've enjoyed mostly playing more supporting roles in MMOs... Which is why probably my most played Jobs in FF have been healers and Bard... But Square is doing it's absolute best to annihilate that kind of role from the game by having Healers being what they are and Ranged Phys also kinda getting shafted...

Because I do enjoy Healing I will still occasionally play healer, but it's more becoming for the relatively quick queues at this point as most of it just wishing the dungeon would end faster as I cast Glare for the nth time on a boss.
And for harder content, I did try out Vali EX, a lot of the healing there was just packed into very intense short moments like Ruin Foretold.

[ASkellington]

Where are we on a scale between 1-10 regarding healers? 1 being you don't like the current state of healers but still heal. 10 being you have changed jobs and never healing again.

I am a solid 11.

Not only have I changed jobs and am never healing again until the devs wake up and get a clue main is shelved.

Fix the AST card system for the 4th time in a row, properly this time and not the lazy slop you gave us in DT and I'll come back to AST. The other 3 healers aren't worth my time either.

[Striker44]

Not only have I changed jobs and am never healing again until the devs wake up and get a clue main is shelved.

Might want to consider the possibility that they have a clue; it's just simply not what you want. You shelve your healing class and someone else picks it up. I hope you're having fun with your new main job (seriously), just like other people are having fun playing healers. But straight up insulting the devs because they're not making their game the way you want isn't going to get you anywhere except more frustrated.

[Supersnow845]

Might want to consider the possibility that they have a clue; it's just simply not what you want. You shelve your healing class and someone else picks it up. I hope you're having fun with your new main job (seriously), just like other people are having fun playing healers. But straight up insulting the devs because they're not making their game the way you want isn't going to get you anywhere except more frustrated.

Yeah haven’t you seen PF, it’s so overflowing with healers they are paying tanks to join parties so that they can actually prog


Oh wait no they aren’t, because if you are good enough at this game to play anything above DF you don’t play a healer because nobody likes their design and you will probably be replaced in M1 and M4 in a few weeks with more gear anyway

A trinity role designed around babying bad DF players isn’t sustainable in anything above DF and this being the third tier in a row with a massive healer shortage shows the high end community is fed up