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    Quote Originally Posted by OzumaKuma View Post
    There's no reason for them to alter healers to suit a small number players who have maxed out the game to a point where the only way to give them a new challenge is to remake healers entirely. It's better to seek out new challenges and maybe play another game for a new challenge.
    We should give tanks the healer treatment too then, right? 1 Damage, 1 DoT, 1 AoE so we don't alienate anyone for such a small number of players. Tanks can just go else where if they want better challenges or play another game.

    Quote Originally Posted by Somnolence View Post
    I just did quick glance at the Europe Raiding Central discord and it seems healers are the most sought at role atm for statics.

    In a perfect world, the role should be in a state where 25% of the people play it.

    Or - some healer mains won't like this - in a state where people that don't main them can pick them up and play them while having fun.
    It was funny that in my old static, need to fill the tank role? No problem, 3 of us will. Fill the Healer slot? Everyone was fighting each other not to be the ones stuck playing that role. Not because it was difficult, but because the role is just that damn boring. We ended up agreeing to do a role rotation so players didn't feel like they were stuck having to main healer.

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    I know, you can’t pay me to go on 2chan
    I don't blame ya. Haha.
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    Last edited by MisterNublet; 06-21-2024 at 12:19 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MisterNublet View Post
    We should give tanks the healer treatment too then, right? 1 Damage, 1 DoT, 1 AoE so we don't alienate anyone for such a small number of players. Tanks can just go else where if they want better challenges or play another game.
    Oh don't be selfish. DPS also needs to have 1 button rotation treatment.

    What if my 94 year old grandma on sick bed can't play? This game must be more accessible than it currently is. We don't want to gatekeep anyone, do we?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aword3213 View Post
    Oh don't be selfish. DPS also needs to have 1 button rotation treatment.

    What if my 94 year old grandma on sick bed can't play? This game must be more accessible than it currently is. We don't want to gatekeep anyone, do we?
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6r3T1X0OXIU

    Rip Summoners. The only job I feel worse off for than Healers.
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    Last edited by MisterNublet; 06-21-2024 at 12:34 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pandurah View Post
    Then you don't know the full extent of the issues. You just don't know any different, sounds harsh but it's true. If you'd like to know more, go read the thread, look at the ample examples laid out by more articulate users than me.
    If not then, ok... thanks for the bump!
    I fail to see why that matters. I enjoy the current content and heard people tell me how healing was in patches and expansions before.
    Just because I'm newer than the wise old veterans, doesn't mean I can't have my opinion on the subject.

    I enjoy healing as it is. If something changes, fine by me but I'm fine if not and sabotaging with something as childish as a "healer strike" in a bloody mmo is beyond me. But again, you do you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dusty_Inkwell View Post
    snip snap
    lol sabotage? How is this sabotage??

    It matters because there is a comparison to previous iterations of the healer role, which would still function in today's game. And no one's saying you can't have an opinion, but you're also complaining about us sharing ours.

    Great to see you're still bumping the post, though, thanks for the help!
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    The solution is just make more situations to heal in shb dungeons and on (just increase the incoming damage and decrease war selfheal its that straightforward. Tower of zot, holminster switch,tower of babil are like perfect examples of making healers actually heal and not spam 1+dot+aoe). Adding a longer dps rotation wont fix the main issue that healers arent seen as healers, but just third weak dps. It will only attract more so called "green dps" who act like healing on a healer job is a torture. In endgame normal dungeons there is barely any need to use 80-90% of healers cds. Especially if the tank is a warrior.

    yeah this strike wont do anything but people are still allowed to voice their dissatisfaction. There is nothing wrong with wishing for more engaging gameplay without being forced into extreme and ultimate because the gap between normal dungeons and hard content is way too big. Is it really that much to ask for the game to make use of more of our abilities, which this game literally provides us?
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    You'll have to face it that this system isn't like other MMOs where you have spacs and all.
    This is a mainstream-friendly entrypoint for players who want to try MMOs without much sweat beyond midcore savage raiders.

    Stop trying to make it an MMO it isn't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TBerry View Post
    You'll have to face it that this system isn't like other MMOs where you have spacs and all.
    This is a mainstream-friendly entrypoint for players who want to try MMOs without much sweat beyond midcore savage raiders.

    Stop trying to make it an MMO it isn't.
    C'mon, this bait was too easy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TBerry View Post
    Stop trying to make it an MMO it isn't.
    Hate to bring this up, again, but when did you start? If after/during Shadowbringers of course you'll have this attitude. See, people aren't asking for something new to happen, but give back some old tools we had before ShB. Look into it, if you haven't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TBerry View Post
    You'll have to face it that this system isn't like other MMOs where you have spacs and all.
    This is a mainstream-friendly entrypoint for players who want to try MMOs without much sweat beyond midcore savage raiders.
    How is FFXIV mainstream friendly when most would-be sprouts die at account registeration?


    Stop trying to make it an MMO it isn't.
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