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  1. #8411
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    CaptainLagbeard's Avatar
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    Rhaya Jakkya
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    There definitely should be better ways for international players to get a message to the devs than just hoping someone takes the message to them... And if they only listen to Japanese forums, maybe the solution is to just start blasting the forums up with machine translated posts.
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  2. #8412
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    Samantha Redgrayve
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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainLagbeard View Post
    There definitely should be better ways for international players to get a message to the devs than just hoping someone takes the message to them... And if they only listen to Japanese forums, maybe the solution is to just start blasting the forums up with machine translated posts.
    They'd probably just lock and/or delete the threads, rather than actually ask themselves 'hmm, wonder why all the non-JP players are posting Google Translated posts on the JP forums instead of using the EN ones'

    Quote Originally Posted by ralphthemagician View Post
    Most of the other roles are just too linear for me. I think the video on YouTube about #FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE got recommended to me because I've been searching over the past few days for a new multiplayer game to play. I will 100% come back if they fix (or transform) healing. I'm totally down to play a buff/debuff role. Loved playing Bard and Enchanter in the original EQ.
    AST could have easily been the 'job for players who prefer buffing allies instead of dealing damage', by making the cards be a more central part of the gameplay, but they went the opposite direction with DT and reduced how much the cards have an effect on damage
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  3. #8413
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    Grainne Gothram
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kes13a View Post
    wouldnt it be nice if SE had some kind of exit survey? that way they could have numbers and reasons..
    With that back end to even buy the game and subscribe to it. It would be a miracle if they could have a preset choice exit survey, the only thing that perfectly works in the back end is buying cosmetics.
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  4. #8414
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    Percibel Theren
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kes13a View Post
    using Holy is fine.. if you have the time. hard to use it if the tanks HP is disappearing faster than ice cream at a kiddie party and they arent using mitigation. rather try keeping the tank up in that case, if I have time, sure, use a stun, heal the tank, but if they are undergeared and using no mits... the time it takes to stun, you'll lose the tank most of the time
    Sure, but how often does this really happen? I've had a 660 iLvl tank in Origenics and even then I only had to GCD heal sometimes. Besides, Swiftcast + Holy when the tank parks the mobs is a LOT of mitigation because they effectively don't deal any damage for a good while.
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  5. #8415
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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainLagbeard View Post
    As a first step bandaid fix just buff all Healers damage to match tanks... Or if they suddenly pretend to be worried about balance, drop down Tank DPS and make the two meet halfway.

    And then they can start working on making Healers have more to do in fights than just spamming one spell.
    As much as I would enjoy the utter chaos that would happen if they nerfed tank DPS, I think upping healer DPS would probably be the better choice. I don't know why they deal less damage than tanks. They are both "support" roles that bring something besides their raw DPS, so about equal damage makes sense to me.

    Is this another "but if we make the poor healers press their damage buttons, they won't be able to focus on healing" thing?
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  6. #8416
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    Etherea Stormaire
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    Zalera
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    Quote Originally Posted by PercibelTheren View Post
    Is this another "but if we make the poor healers press their damage buttons, they won't be able to focus on healing" thing?
    yeah, we wouldnt be able to focus on something we barely do already. oh.. the stress.

    it would also apparently mean the majority represented by one particular person would be prevented from healing. (not quite sure how, but I am sure they could explain it)
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    #FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE

  7. #8417
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kes13a View Post
    yeah, we wouldnt be able to focus on something we barely do already. oh.. the stress.

    it would also apparently mean the majority represented by one particular person would be prevented from healing. (not quite sure how, but I am sure they could explain it)
    Honestly, I hate the stress argument with a passion because I struggle with anxiety a lot and sometimes it seems that people like me are being used as a cudgel against those who want the game to be even the slightest bit more challenging or engaging. I can't see myself ever stepping into Ultimate because even the idea itself scares me, but that doesn't mean I want it to be taken away from the people who enjoy it. I'm just happily doing the midcore content that I can handle, mostly with the support of friends, and cheering on the people who can handle more difficult stuff.

    Maybe this is the MMO healer vet in me talking, but there is a type of healer stress that I find really enjoyable. It's those situations where I'm having to go into triage mode and think about every choice I make. Successfully dragging the party over the finish line in times like these feels INCREDIBLE. It rewards me for not panicking, which I think is a good way to teach my overly anxious brain that it doesn't have to be afraid of everything all the time. Unfortunately, FFXIV doesn't offer me this experience unless things have gone horribly wrong in a pull or my party is straight up bad.
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    Last edited by PercibelTheren; 08-12-2024 at 12:01 PM.

  8. #8418
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    Kaeline Artelus
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    Gunbreaker Lv 74
    Here again with "DPS!DPS!DPS!"

    First they need to fix the healing and support/buff of healer.
    This the more pressing issue of the role.... In fact no, it's the more pressing issue of the game right now.
    Because, i do't know if you realized but : Tanks are just clearly OP and almost immortal, and some DPS almost have a freaking Self-Sustain.

    But no, people need to advocate for DPS first.... Like it will make healer relevant again... Which it will not.

    DPS can come later, when, at last, healers will retrieve their place : Healing and Buffing. Then they can give back or had DPS skills again.
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  9. #8419
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    J'thaldi Rhid
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    There's a lot they need to fix to make healers relevant, they can and should fix all of them at once, there's no need for a 'More healing OR better damage kit' stance, it's not mutually exclusive, neither is more important than the other.

    The healer kit needs to evolve as a whole, not move one part forward and leave the others in the dust.
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  10. #8420
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    Kaeline Artelus
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aravell View Post
    There's a lot they need to fix to make healers relevant, they can and should fix all of them at once, there's no need for a 'More healing OR better damage kit' stance, it's not mutually exclusive, neither is more important than the other.

    The healer kit needs to evolve as a whole, not move one part forward and leave the others in the dust.
    I said it : DPS kit can come later.

    Because, seriously, do you see SE being capable to fix thoses 2 things at the same time right now?
    Me... No.
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