#FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE

[Tigore]

@Kes13a

My friend was just making a bit of a joke as a troll. It's almost impossible for me to accurately gauge what spells were actually used. It sounds like Cure 1 spam from his end with the healers he got when Afflatus Solace, Regen and Cure 2 would be far better ones to use.

The situation you mentioned might happen in Aurum Vale with how tight damage can get there with no Medica 2. I have used Swiftcast with the Holy to get the stun out quicker and used Benediction to make it work. It is quite often I give all 4 members Regen for the boss battles in that dungeon due to the AoE damage being high.

Aside from Aurum Vale, I have often times placed a Regen on the tank while they pull with the HoT no longer drawing stray enemy hate. Works pretty well to slowly get the tank back up to full while the enemies are stunned to death. I have Afflatus spells and Tetragrammaton ready too in case a stray mini tank buster is thrown out in between stuns.

[Kes13a]

Aside from Aurum Vale, I have often times placed a Regen on the tank while they pull with the HoT no longer drawing stray enemy hate. Works pretty well to slowly get the tank back up to full while the enemies are stunned to death. I have Afflatus spells and Tetragrammaton ready too in case a stray mini tank buster is thrown out in between stuns.

My apologies for not noticing this.. HoTs no longer pull aggro? that would change things a fair bit. I am so used to that I never noticed if they didnt because I try and time regens to end before the next pull because I hated getting mobbed while the tank ran past them lol.

[CaptainLagbeard]

My apologies for not noticing this.. HoTs no longer pull aggro? that would change things a fair bit. I am so used to that I never noticed if they didnt because I try and time regens to end before the next pull because I hated getting mobbed while the tank ran past them lol.

Looking up the patch, 6.2, "HP restoration over time will no longer generate enmity with each tick of healing." I think all the enmity for HoTs is frontloaded to the initial cast.

[Rein_eon_Osborne]

Looking up the patch, 6.2, "HP restoration over time will no longer generate enmity with each tick of healing." I think all the enmity for HoTs is frontloaded to the initial cast.

Rather than frontloaded, it's an artificial enmity that happens when you apply some buff not unlike when you use Peloton from outside combat to your battling ally, which also puts you into a combat state because of said artificial enmity.

[george357]

well they can't keep necrobumping this dead horse forever.

[Silver-Strider]

well they can't keep necrobumping this dead horse forever.

I will now do it out of spite.

[Kacho_Nacho]

well they can't keep necrobumping this dead horse forever.

Not sure how a thread which has been so active that it has never dropped off the first page can be construed as being necro-bumped. Anyways, thanks for your +1.

It'd be nice to max out a thread about how bad healers are right now... but you know.... 2 would be even better lol

Goddess, that would be awesome. I want this issue to be so continuously "hot" that the devs have no choice but to address it. It's not like healers are asking for the Sun, Moon, and Stars. We just want our game play engaging and our contribution to the success of the party to be equal to the contribution of the other two roles.

[Kes13a]

well they can't keep necrobumping this dead horse forever.

thanks for bumping it yourself, but you may need to refresh yourself on what the term actually means. furthest back I have seen this thread is page 2... and never more than a couple hours since the last post. necro it isnt.

[OliviaLugria]

M4S cleanerd without healers. Peak healer design!

[Tigore]

@ Kes13a

It's actually an understandable habit for the HoTs to be timed just when the tank has all the enemy enmity / aggro established. I think in WoW, placing HoTs up just when a tank is pulling was usually asking to make the enemies turn to you instead as you described. FF14's old days used to punish it more heavily by multiplying the enmity of overhealing by maybe 5 - 8 times. So a person spamming Cure 2 on a tank at full health could theoretically yank enemy aggro off. The Lucid Dreaming MP regen used to cut all our enmity in half since there was always going to be a little overhealing when we do things right too.

Nowadays for FF14, it is as Rein said. Only buff enmity is generated right when you apply the HoT. The rest of the HoT enmity and overhealing multipliers are gone last I checked. You just need to make sure the HoT is applied before the initial pull or after the tank has hit everything with one AoE now.