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    Quote Originally Posted by Evergrey View Post
    "All publicity is good publicity."
    Quoting "Art of the Deal" now?
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    I wonder if we will get a statement from Yoshi-P about his thoughts on the controversy.
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    #FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE

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    Quote Originally Posted by BunnyQueen View Post
    I wonder if we will get a statement from Yoshi-P about his thoughts on the controversy.
    Yoshi P: lol go play Ultimate
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    Quote Originally Posted by Somnolence View Post
    Quoting "Art of the Deal" now?
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    Streamers whose income depends on SE or the heavily defensive XIV community refuse to do stuff that would piss off SE or the XIV community and put their income at risk. (But hey despite many of them not touching healers their opinion is that of the majority and not the hundreds here)

    More news at 9
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    Quote Originally Posted by WaxSw View Post
    (But hey despite many of them not touching healers their opinion is that of the majority and not the hundreds here)
    I would find this hilarious if it weren's so sad. Healer mains complaining on the forums get told to shut up because we either "don't do enough high end content" (despite multiple people saying they do + posting their logs), or we "are too elite to understand the average player".

    Meanwhile, people will take the frankly uninformed opinions of some (not all) streamers who either don't heal or are objectively bad at it (Mr. Happy is a Sylphie, don't @ me) and tout it as some kind of indisputable truth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aiqa View Post
    My own favorite healer WHM will have 4 damage buttons for single target in DT. WHich should be enough to remove the feeling of using only Glare. People who don't want complex rotations already have to deal with those 4 buttons, but the buttons are implemented in a way that gives very little variation. For some reason the FF devs decided to make a system where Dia is only needed once every 30 seconds, Missery every 1 minute at most, and the new DT damage buttons every 2 minutes (3 times). So in between those huge cooldowns and DoT duration, you're just back to Glare spam.
    WHM is my favorite Job in the game. I really wish Holy was usable in single target rotations. The action is a FF staple after all. If Glare IV wasn’t locked behind a 120sec ability, lower Dia’s DoT timer, and we can use Holy on boss / raid fights, that would solve WHM’s dps rotation. No additional dps buttons are needed.

    The healing kit is great, though most abilities aren’t used much due to low damage output in all forms of content, which needs to be addressed. Despite my complaints about WHM dps, I want to heal more too.
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    Andreas Cestelle
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    Quote Originally Posted by currentlemon View Post
    WHM is my favorite Job in the game. I really wish Holy was usable in single target rotations. The action is a FF staple after all. If Glare IV wasn’t locked behind a 120sec ability, lower Dia’s DoT timer, and we can use Holy on boss / raid fights, that would solve WHM’s dps rotation. No additional dps buttons are needed.

    The healing kit is great, though most abilities aren’t used much due to low damage output in all forms of content, which needs to be addressed. Despite my complaints about WHM dps, I want to heal more too.
    Exactly, the changes we are asking for are so minimal

    Make glare 4 proc off every 5 glares, have glare 4 have a 40% chance to generate a “diacloud” proc then give back aero 3 on its old 18 second timer and WHM would be literally flawless

    We aren’t asking for the moon
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    As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.

    I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess

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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    Exactly, the changes we are asking for are so minimal

    Make glare 4 proc off every 5 glares, have glare 4 have a 40% chance to generate a “diacloud” proc then give back aero 3 on its old 18 second timer and WHM would be literally flawless

    We aren’t asking for the moon
    Got any ideas to include Holy into WHM’s single target rotation? I’m thinking that it’d combo off of the 3 Glare IV’s used after PoM. Sort of like a finisher. Maybe get a buff that would allow apply a DoT effect on the NPC when Holy is used.

    As for Aero III, have it be reintroduced as a weaker version of Glare IV at the early levels.
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    Quote Originally Posted by currentlemon View Post
    Got any ideas to include Holy into WHM’s single target rotation? I’m thinking that it’d combo off of the 3 Glare IV’s used after PoM. Sort of like a finisher. Maybe get a buff that would allow apply a DoT effect on the NPC when Holy is used.

    As for Aero III, have it be reintroduced as a weaker version of Glare IV at the early levels.
    That’s probably how I would do it, something like if glare 4 comes from 5 glare 3’s then POM could empower holy and holy becomes a gain on single target that you could use three of then that would trigger an empowered finisher

    So empowered holy (sort of like how holy might works on PLD) takes the current place of glare 4, and glare 4 becomes a button that you press every 20 seconds or so and can proc diacloud’s
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    As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.

    I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess

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