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  1. #8231
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    Ayalu's Avatar
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    Ayalu Jeji
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    As harder hitting enemies dont change general lackluster class design, no. ^^*
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  2. #8232
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    ApolloGenX's Avatar
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    Galen Amaranthe
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    FFXIV copied a lot from Wow (they admitted so)- Why not copy the healing? Or copy from EQ or EQ 2?

    Plenty of other games have more fun healing.... no excuse for the lack of diversity in healing in this game.
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  3. #8233
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    Ramiee's Avatar
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    Grainne Gothram
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    Quote Originally Posted by Somnolence View Post
    Curious how many of you have tried healing M3S and M4S and if your opinion about the state of the healers has changed?
    I prefer to have fun after the first couple of weeks of doing savage so I don't play healer but what I've seen so far the cycle is unchanged.
    Healers have a job during prog and low gear, people get better gear, bosses hit less as hard DPS/tank get into a rhythm of mitigating better, healers heal less, healers have to spam glare.
    Nothings really changed.
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  4. #8234
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    Quote Originally Posted by ApolloGenX View Post
    FFXIV copied a lot from Wow (they admitted so)- Why not copy the healing? Or copy from EQ or EQ 2?

    Plenty of other games have more fun healing.... no excuse for the lack of diversity in healing in this game.
    To be fair they were inspired and played it itensivly for ARR.
    After that i somehow doubt they went back to that.
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  5. #8235
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    Quote Originally Posted by Somnolence View Post
    Curious how many of you have tried healing M3S and M4S and if your opinion about the state of the healers has changed?
    what are you talking about neither m3s or m4s is healing intensive ...
    Quote Originally Posted by Ramiee View Post
    I prefer to have fun after the first couple of weeks of doing savage so I don't play healer but what I've seen so far the cycle is unchanged.
    Healers have a job during prog and low gear, people get better gear, bosses hit less as hard DPS/tank get into a rhythm of mitigating better, healers heal less, healers have to spam glare.
    Nothings really changed.
    You are correct, after w1 I don't wanna play healer anymore.


    Also ast being so strong really does not make me want to play healer anymore.
    Hey ast you died 3 times but you pressed divination during the correct gcd on burst window here have more damage then me.
    Oh I have the 735 weapon and you still have 710, well that doesn't really matter does it.
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    Last edited by MrSigy; 08-08-2024 at 11:55 PM.

  6. #8236
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    Somnolence's Avatar
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    Ixa X'phele
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrSigy View Post
    what are you talking about neither m3s or m4s is healing intensive ...
    I know, I am trolling a bit here, since nothing really changed that would impact the healer status quo

    I did notice some healers complaining, because they actually have to GCD heal there and there (well, mostly shield), especially if co-healer is weaker.
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  7. #8237
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    Isala Zuntrios
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    Quote Originally Posted by Somnolence View Post
    I know, I am trolling a bit here, since nothing really changed that would impact the healer status quo

    I did notice some healers complaining, because they actually have to GCD heal there and there (well, mostly shield), especially if co-healer is weaker.
    Which goes back to the same discussion we all had a few hundred pages ago, about how having a role that only "feels better" when everyone else isn't performing well is still crappy design.
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  8. #8238
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xenoviastar View Post
    3rd time this week I have had a Paladin as my tank and each time they use Requiescat to heal themselves instead of doing damage. Yes I am healing them but they feel the need to keep themself above 90% hp apparently.
    @ Xenoviastar

    As I said, the blade spell combos, Holy Spirit and Holy Circle also come packaged with a 400 potency cure when they are cast. We can technically still use Holy Spirit and Holy Circle as an instant filler later since the melee combos procs one use afterwards. We are healing ourselves past 90% HP even if we are using Requiescat properly. Hence the confusion here. But since it is about Clemency spam for clarification, sorry about the assumption if you really have no problem with the proper usage. It doesn't even come across my mind to ever use Requiescat on Clemency because we are indirectly Cure spamming ourselves doing it right anyhow.
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  9. #8239
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    The only time I'd use Requiescat for Clememecy is around StB levels so I can pull off the enmity from whoever triggers next trash pulls. Works like a charm lmao.
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  10. #8240
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    Grainne Gothram
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ayalu View Post
    To be fair they were inspired and played it itensivly for ARR.
    After that i somehow doubt they went back to that.
    Well for healers they werent as inspired, Cataclysm healers werent bad persay but healer damage option in WoW cata was not as interesting and engaging as ARR. WoW healing however got better and better each expansion from Cata onwards in terms of adding damage options and healing, its not exactly perfect because WoW class balance is all over the place so some healers are completely shafted.
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