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  1. #8171
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    Silver-Strider's Avatar
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    Silver Strider
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    Famfrit
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lorika View Post
    Healer never had DPS system to begin with.
    WHM had Aqua, true, but it was a low damage skill with a slow on it.
    Scholar was sharing quite a Number of DoT with the Old SMN.... it's true, but that's all.

    Except for that, what we really lost was support (my Stone Skin )
    Fluid Aura had the same potency as Stone 2 at the time, on a 20s CD and had a Knockback effect. Also Aero 1 and 2 were also separate buttons that stacked. HW removed the damage from Fluid Aura but we got Assize to replace it and Aero 3 was added as well.
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  2. #8172
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    Lorika's Avatar
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    Kaeline Artelus
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    Phantom
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    Gunbreaker Lv 74
    Quote Originally Posted by Silver-Strider View Post
    Fluid Aura had the same potency as Stone 2 at the time, on a 20s CD and had a Knockback effect. Also Aero 1 and 2 were also separate buttons that stacked. HW removed the damage from Fluid Aura but we got Assize to replace it and Aero 3 was added as well.
    I really have the impression we had far less.... Memory is not was it used to be XD
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  3. #8173
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    Lynx Dubh
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    Faerie
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    Dancer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Silver-Strider View Post
    Fluid Aura had the same potency as Stone 2 at the time, on a 20s CD and had a Knockback effect. Also Aero 1 and 2 were also separate buttons that stacked. HW removed the damage from Fluid Aura but we got Assize to replace it and Aero 3 was added as well.
    Minor correction: it was SB that removed the damage effect of Fluid Aura. We still had the 150 potency in HW.
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    Last edited by LynxDubh; 08-08-2024 at 01:23 AM. Reason: Language correction

  4. #8174
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    Silver-Strider's Avatar
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    Silver Strider
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    Quote Originally Posted by LynxDubh View Post
    Minor correction: it was SB that removed the damage effect of Fluid Aura. We still had the 150 potency in HW.
    Just makes it worse then cause that would mean we had 3 DoTs, 2 oGCDs attacks, Stone 1 for heavy and Stone 3 for filler in our Prime. Aero 1 might not have been worth maintaining by HW due to the low potency but it was still useful for weave/movement tech and that's before considering Cleric Stance and PoM
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  5. #8175
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    Samantha Redgrayve
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    Zodiark
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    Sage Lv 100


    From a discord. Really puts into perspective how much we've lost over the years
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  6. #8176
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    Lynx Dubh
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    Faerie
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    Dancer Lv 100
    And as SCH you got Ruin II, Broil, Bio, Bio II, Miasma, Miasma II for aoe, Energy Drain, Bane for aoe dots and defensive debuffs, and Aero from cross class if you wanted to be spicy (but was not always optimal)
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  7. #8177
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    Rowan Aarontagdh
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    Mateus
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Lorika View Post
    Healer never had DPS system to begin with.
    WHM had Aqua, true, but it was a low damage skill with a slow on it.
    Scholar was sharing quite a Number of DoT with the Old SMN.... it's true, but that's all.

    Except for that, what we really lost was support (my Stone Skin )
    Fluid aura also had a bind at the end of the knockback at some point, but I did previously play way back during ARR.
    But it was a unique and interesting way to mitigate damage, by knocking away a melee enemy temporarily.
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  8. #8178
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    Lynx Dubh
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    Dancer Lv 100
    AST only had Malefic II, Combust, Combust II, Gravity for Aoe, and Stella for applying heavy (nearly worthless sadly). But, they had a very in depth card system in HW still.
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  9. #8179
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wildheaven182 View Post
    Fluid aura also had a bind at the end of the knockback at some point, but I did previously play way back during ARR.
    But it was a unique and interesting way to mitigate damage, by knocking away a melee enemy temporarily.
    I loved doing that in Haukke Manor when new tanks pulled a bit too spicy. I could follow up with a Repose to really take a mob out of the fight.
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  10. #8180
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    Medim Azurarok
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    Siren
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    Machinist Lv 100
    From what I've read Aero 3 was a 2.5s cast so it wasn't useful for mobility.
    E. Dyskrasia would've been great for that purpose had it been stackable and same potency as Dosis but we didn't even get that.

    Fluid Aura became a Bind in ShB and was finally deleted in EW, with nothing replacing it at that level. I wish they just turned it into an instant cast water spell instead.
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