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  1. #8161
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    Ramiee's Avatar
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    Grainne Gothram
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    Cerberus
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    Black Mage Lv 50
    You know what I mean, pretty much everyone in roulettes, people who play healer for faster queues would play sage if it had a basic damage system because it would be like playing a Tank.
    If that happened sage would probably above 50% in healer players.
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  2. #8162
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    Ayalu's Avatar
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    Ayalu Jeji
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    Moogle
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    Scholar Lv 100
    You mean similar how Summoner is a very popular class statisticaly because its a good filler caster?
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  3. #8163
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    Tigore's Avatar
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    Tigore Collson
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    Ultros
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Seems I missed a bit of discussion while I was at work. I guess I didn't miss much.

    It would be news to me if casters have positionals since they didn't have any when I played them during Endwalker. I will assume that is false even though I still haven't gotten to them yet. The remark on soloing better on WHM compared to WAR kind of left me dumbfounded a bit ... Clearly someone didn't push the Raw Intuition / Bloodwhetting button. I should know since I constantly levelled that class to 100 using the MSQ and Trust quests >.> Vuln stacks don't mean much to the WAR as long as you still try to read the mechs and adjust later to them. The only general things that could probably kill a WAR is death mechs and lag.

    Anyways, I forgot to say what GCDs I was typically using while levelling WHM, SCH and AST through dungeons. I will also have to add in that I am still spamming Glare, Broil and Malefic a lot. Switch that to Holy, Art of War and Gravity when it is AoE on trash packs, of course. There are occasional casts of Regen, Afflatus spells, Adloquium, and Aspected Benefic to capitalize on special utility and cooldowns, but that's about it.
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    Last edited by Tigore; 08-07-2024 at 03:44 PM.

  4. #8164
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    Azurarok's Avatar
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    Medim Azurarok
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    Siren
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    Machinist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Ramiee View Post
    Genuinely if stacks of Addersting made Toxikon II do more damage from 360 to like 420 and you gained those Adderstings from shield breaks psych uses and dosis crits SGE would have exactly what we would want.
    As far as what I've been told Addersting's not allowed to be higher potency because players'll then have to stock up on them for raid buffs, which will make the job "too busy".
    I think that'd add a nice layer of complexity for the job but having to manage resources for dps is not something a healer should be doing apparently.
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    Last edited by Azurarok; 08-07-2024 at 11:36 AM.

  5. #8165
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    Gihwezi's Avatar
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    Giacinta Geirskogul
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    Lamia
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    Sage Lv 100
    Oh I thought this whole healer strike was just a meme, imagine my surprise finding this thread! I don't mean that sarcastically of course -- I think if other healer mains want to strike that's their choice. Being a DPS main since Heavensward and recently finding a new-found love for healing, I won't be striking, but I hope it goes well for everyone else. :>
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  6. #8166
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    Bobby66's Avatar
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    Paper Wait
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    Mateus
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    Warrior Lv 70
    The funny thing is healers in PvP are pretty fun.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bellsong View Post
    Okay boomer.

  7. #8167
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    Connor's Avatar
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    Connor Whelan
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    Odin
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    Bard Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Bobby66 View Post
    The funny thing is healers in PvP are pretty fun.
    I’d punch a Moogle in the face for the PvP version of Adloquium/Biolysis/Deployment to get ported into PvE
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  8. #8168
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    Rein_eon_Osborne's Avatar
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    Mira Clearweaver
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    Jenova
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    Conjurer Lv 90
    There's a reason why some folks had been wanting to get whoever designs the PvP healer into PvE space - or at the very least bring that "Balance all job reasonably to not break the game"-mindset over instead of adopting the current one that is "Let's achieve that perfect balance."
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  9. #8169
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    Alarasong Elaha
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    Siren
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    White Mage Lv 91
    Quote Originally Posted by Azurarok View Post
    As far as what I've been told Addersting's not allowed to be higher potency because players'll then have to stock up on them for raid buffs, which will make the job "too busy".
    I think that'd add a nice layer of complexity for the job but having to manage resources for dps is not something a healer should be doing apparently.
    Oh how I wish we could just axe raid buffs entirely and then allow the jobs to have more interesting designs instead
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  10. #8170
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    Aravell's Avatar
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    J'thaldi Rhid
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    Mateus
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    Machinist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Rolder50 View Post
    Oh how I wish we could just axe raid buffs entirely and then allow the jobs to have more interesting designs instead
    I think axing raid buffs in the current design of the game would do more harm than good.

    Tanks already completely ignore healers, if there's no raid buffs, the DPS can ignore the party too. Who cares if that DRG dies? He doesn't have Litany anymore, there's no need to realign.

    It would turn the game even more into a solo experience with other people. You'd end up just playing near other players, not playing with them.
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