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  1. #9171
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    LynxDubh's Avatar
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    Lynx Dubh
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    Faerie
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    Dancer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Tunda View Post
    WHM has the worst job gear I have ever seen it is even worst than dancer
    I honestly quite like the main body pieces of the WHM gear. DT’s set is the best full set yet. It has great brown leather accents to really hit the adventurer/explorer feel that a lot of the sets went with this expac. And the metal leaf headpiece is so nice, I wish I could use it on other classes.
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  2. #9172
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    CaptainLagbeard's Avatar
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    Rhaya Jakkya
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    Odin
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Most of the AF gear is rather neutral, aside from the head pieces at least... Being about as masculine or feminine as a rather typical mage robe can be. The HW and EW ones being a little towards being feminine and SB one they actually gave male and female characters a completely different appearance...

    And most other gear is just recolored caster gear...
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  4. #9173
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    Kes13a's Avatar
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    Etherea Stormaire
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    Zalera
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Aidorouge View Post
    Now I get to awkwardly feel like I was an accessory for murder because Square-Enix apparently was trying to appeal to me this entire time and yet it never took, which is precisely why I support any changes to make healers more appealing to those who *did* like the role once upon a time because, and this part is very important... I'M NOT GOING TO QUEUE AS THEM NO MATTER WHAT THEY DO. Hells, it's the same reason I feel bad about what happened to MNK and BLM. I didn't like playing them much before Dawntrail, liked playing them even *less* after Dawntrail, but for some reason Square-Enix thought my non-MNK/BLM main opinion mattered more than those who already liked those jobs. I had NIN and RDM, I didn't really *want* to main a different melee and caster DPS you guys.
    thats something that CBU3 obviously hasnt clued into yet.

    all these mythical people they are trying to attract by dumbing down the jobs... has not happened. but hey, if they alienate enough people who used to like it... maybe they can dump the role completely... and somehow feel good about accomplishing something.

    a majority of mmo people I have known over the years typically fall into groups... tanking... healing.. or dps. rarely they enjoy all three.... but usually is one of the three that they enjoy. CBU3 hasnt figured out that they cant FORCE people to enjoy something different (or at the very least... dumb them down enough to make people enjoy it)
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  5. #9174
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    Aravell's Avatar
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    J'thaldi Rhid
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    Mateus
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    Machinist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Kes13a View Post
    a majority of mmo people I have known over the years typically fall into groups... tanking... healing.. or dps. rarely they enjoy all three.... but usually is one of the three that they enjoy. CBU3 hasnt figured out that they cant FORCE people to enjoy something different (or at the very least... dumb them down enough to make people enjoy it)
    Thing is, after dumbing it all down, you don't get very many people who play it because they enjoy it, you get far more people just tolerating it for the fast queues or obligation to friends.

    They really should focus on the people who actually enjoy the role archetype instead of trying to smash the role into a shape that others enjoy while ignoring that the people who enjoyed the old shape are becoming increasingly unhappy.
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  6. #9175
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    Ramiee's Avatar
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    Grainne Gothram
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    Cerberus
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    Black Mage Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by OliviaLugria View Post
    I don't know what is up with scholar's gear. There are a few good pieces, but I've seen plenty of academic bada**es in media and somehow the job gear fumbles it.
    Falls into the same issue as other jobs where it's artifact gear has to have the same general look for some reason. The savant set was the only diversion from it's academic mortarboard professor look.
    I do like how it looks personally but it is exhausting that every single AF set for scholar is just a different variation of the same thing, it's even worse than WHM.
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  7. #9176
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    Lorika's Avatar
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    Kaeline Artelus
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    Phantom
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    Gunbreaker Lv 74
    So, i'm strange for liking WHM, SCH (except HW one), and AST AF Gear?
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  8. #9177
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    Connor's Avatar
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    Connor Whelan
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    Odin
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    Bard Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Lorika View Post
    So, i'm strange for liking WHM, SCH (except HW one), and AST AF Gear?
    To me WHM/SCH/AST AF has always been in the top 3 best outfits of the expansion. Some of the outfits this expac feel very hit or miss (the Bard one look a like a rejected Pirates of the Caribbean design, the Dancer one looks like a knock-off Disney Aladdin Halloween Costume), but to me the healer ones have been consistently good designs,
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  9. #9178
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    Ramiee's Avatar
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    Grainne Gothram
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    Cerberus
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    Black Mage Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Lorika View Post
    So, i'm strange for liking WHM, SCH (except HW one), and AST AF Gear?
    Eh it's taste. Personally I just don't like how samey they all are, I feel like the first AF gear they get should be a direct reference to the FF job then they can diverge from then on.
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  10. #9179
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    ForsakenRoe's Avatar
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    Samantha Redgrayve
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    Zodiark
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    Sage Lv 100
    I think that, given we're going to a completely new part of the world with each expansion, it'd have made a bit more sense to have a bit of divergence in the aesthetics for each Artifact Set. I think the biggest winner for DT sets is SMN, and specifically because they actually made it look like a fusion of what we know of SMN, and the Turali fashion direction. So for something like WHM, I'm fine with 'white robe with red trim' because that's the WHM 'thing', but I think it could have stood to have a little bit more... variety? Compared to other WHM sets. For example, a more 'nature' inspired design, a more 'shamanistic' look, or even just having some extra details like some vines/flowers growing on the dress.

    If you gave me a picture of most of the job's AF sets, I could tell you which expansion it's from. But for healers, I'd have varying degrees of struggle. Some of the SCH ones feel super samey (probably because they're all olive green), AST feels like it's had the same set since Stormblood (I miss the HW aesthetic) and SGE feels like the 'its the same picture' meme with the two sets it got so far. Meanwhile, the one time it'd have made sense to have an exact 1:1, the Monster Hunter collab, and the Rathalos armour we get from it, SE says 'nah we thought it'd be more interesting to make a new armour set appearance, like it's 'what would Eorzean armoursmiths come up with using Rathalos materials', instead of just copying MH'. So they CAN come up with 'unique set, influenced by the location it's made', they just... choose not to, for most AF sets?

    I can't wait to see the 100 BLU set when that finally gets updated that far, because as it stands, I expect it to look very similar to the sets we have already, and have zero aesthetic connection to the Whalaqee

    Edit: I suppose the full swap over to 'haha twinkly lights' aesthetic for WHM means any references to nature are out the window, but an idea just came to mind: Imagine, IDK if there's a term for it, but basically, imagine a WHM set that has some vines growing on it as a 'detail'. But also, when a Lily blooms in the Lily Gauge, it also blooms on your character's armour. I'd have liked to see such a thing from the Abyssos weapons (eg the MCH weapon's fire getting more explosive while in Hypercharge, the BRD bow lighting up each of the 3 fires depending on your Pitch Perfect stack count, the WAR axe flaring up with each Fell Cleave, etc), but alas, probably too much engine work or something
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    Last edited by ForsakenRoe; 09-19-2024 at 12:03 AM.

  11. #9180
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    LynxDubh's Avatar
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    Lynx Dubh
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    Faerie
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    Dancer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by ForsakenRoe View Post
    I think that, given we're going to a completely new part of the world with each expansion, it'd have made a bit more sense to have a bit of divergence in the aesthetics for each Artifact Set. I think the biggest winner for DT sets is SMN, and specifically because they actually made it look like a fusion of what we know of SMN, and the Turali fashion direction. So for something like WHM, I'm fine with 'white robe with red trim' because that's the WHM 'thing', but I think it could have stood to have a little bit more... variety? Compared to other WHM sets. For example, a more 'nature' inspired design, a more 'shamanistic' look, or even just having some extra details like some vines/flowers growing on the dress.
    Gosh I love the SMN DT set, it’s so nice and flowy. I personally love draped clothing and ponchos for my irl clothing. So SMN was absolutely my vibe. Sadly the class itself got nothing substantial for the expac and I have not felt like playing it.

    I was so hoping for Green Mage just so we could get more vine, flower, leaf motifs since it’s a rarity on WHM.
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