#FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE

[Ramiee]

Is this still going on? I still enjoy healing in 14, which is a bit strange since I abhor healing in WoW. It's still a very necessary class in all content and having a tank, healer and dps at 100 mean I can benefit from any of those that are currently needed on one character.

Yeah healing in XIV is great because you can play RuneScape on the other screen while if you play wow you have to sadly heal people. Well in best case scenarios I go as a healer in expert and get a warrior then I can afk the entire dungeon and play RuneScape for 20 minutes.

[Supersnow845]

Yeah healing in XIV is great because you can play RuneScape on the other screen while if you play wow you have to sadly heal people. Well in best case scenarios I go as a healer in expert and get a warrior then I can afk the entire dungeon and play RuneScape for 20 minutes.

I should renew my RuneScape subscription, I could get my divination level from 99 to 120 by healing

I loved divination for some reason despite everyone else thinking it was the most boring skill they ever introduced

[Striker44]

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Yeah, I recognize the diagram is showing just the "opener" with the pot at the beginning, but it's the interpretation I'm getting at. The claim being made by people with that graphic is that making the DPS aspect of healers simpler is somehow this horrible travesty that can't possibly be a good thing. I'm simply pointing out that for most of the time in most of the fights in most of the (typical) content, that graphic doesn't show at all what a typical Healer is actually doing. Mixing in the variety of heal spells typically needed in a random DF group (aka what the overwhelming majority of the playerbase actually does) would show that a typical Healer is in fact casting a wide variety of spells during the fight, which the graphic implies is not happening.

[Supersnow845]

Yeah, I recognize the diagram is showing just the "opener" with the pot at the beginning, but it's the interpretation I'm getting at. The claim being made by people with that graphic is that making the DPS aspect of healers simpler is somehow this horrible travesty that can't possibly be a good thing. I'm simply pointing out that for most of the time in most of the fights in most of the (typical) content, that graphic doesn't show at all what a typical Healer is actually doing. Mixing in the variety of heal spells typically needed in a random DF group (aka what the overwhelming majority of the playerbase actually does) would show that a typical Healer is in fact casting a wide variety of spells during the fight, which the graphic implies is not happening.

But that’s the thing. The oGCD’s don’t substitute for the loss of complexity because we press them less than we pressed old healing skills like rouse or succor and our DPS rotation is neutered

We went from about 60/40 DPS/healing button presses where the DPS was split across 10 skills to 80/20 where the DPS is 2 skills

Occasional oGCD heal presses don’t substitute the lost complexity at all

[Kes13a]

Yeah, I recognize the diagram is showing just the "opener" with the pot at the beginning, but it's the interpretation I'm getting at. The claim being made by people with that graphic is that making the DPS aspect of healers simpler is somehow this horrible travesty that can't possibly be a good thing. I'm simply pointing out that for most of the time in most of the fights in most of the (typical) content, that graphic doesn't show at all what a typical Healer is actually doing. Mixing in the variety of heal spells typically needed in a random DF group (aka what the overwhelming majority of the playerbase actually does) would show that a typical Healer is in fact casting a wide variety of spells during the fight, which the graphic implies is not happening.

sorry, not sure what version of the game you are playing, but the "wide variety" of the spells I am using seem to be 21111111 wash... rinse... repeat.

I suppose just to fit your categorization of this wide variety, I could put glare on 4 different buttons, and dia on 2 or 3.... that would encompass a "wide variety" of buttons...

[Drkdays]

Yeah healing in XIV is great because you can play RuneScape on the other screen while if you play wow you have to sadly heal people. Well in best case scenarios I go as a healer in expert and get a warrior then I can afk the entire dungeon and play RuneScape for 20 minutes.

Hyperbole. There's still plenty of deadly mechanics and I've yet to have a perfect run, plus most tanks are still pulling everything and that's generally at least a solid minute of spiking damage before enough adds die for you to relax.

[Supersnow845]

Hyperbole. There's still plenty of deadly mechanics and I've yet to have a perfect run, plus most tanks are still pulling everything and that's generally at least a solid minute of spiking damage before enough adds die for you to relax.

Extra mobs just makes the tanks healing scale harder

At this point you as a healer are only trying to stay alive as a favour for the DPS, the tank certainly doesn’t need you and if the tank was halfway competent they don’t even need you to keep the DPS alive at this point

[EusisLandale]

plus most tanks are still pulling everything and that's generally at least a solid minute of spiking damage before enough adds die for you to relax.

Before reaching trash: Krasis + Eukrasian Diagnosis until crit, pull, or 4th cast
On pull: Toxikon once
Reaching pack 1: Eukrasian Dyskrasia, then Dyskrasia spam
Stopping at pack 2: Panhaima/Haima + Kerachole, E. Dyskrasia again, Dyskrasia until party buffs go out if there are any otherwise skip to next step, full Toxikon, Phlegma, & Psyche dump, Physis+Taurochole once Kerachole wears off, Pneuma, Dyskrasia spam, Kerachole again once Taurochole falls off

This is every single trash pull this expansion, with the exception of maybe the Calcabrina miniboss if the group's DPS has been low to mid, in which case Panhaima just gets held until the double Slapstick spam. Never mind relaxing, I could theoretically find a way to automate this and nobody would know the difference.

[Isala]

Hyperbole. There's still plenty of deadly mechanics and I've yet to have a perfect run, plus most tanks are still pulling everything and that's generally at least a solid minute of spiking damage before enough adds die for you to relax.

Not hyperbole. I've legitimately booted up PokeRogue while on my SCH in leveling dungeons, and even the higher stuff doesn't take much more effort. The game registers my controller even while the window is not in focus, and so long as I keep XIV's controller turned off, I can easily push my 1111111111111111111111111111111111111 spam while grinding for eggs.

[Tigore]

I hate to break it to you Drkdays, but the healers chiming in are telling the truth. All 4 healers have special ways to handle the tank's damage taken from the double pulls.

WHMs can stun spam from Holy casts then drop an Asylum bubble or Temperance angels wings after that.

SCHs can use Aether oGCDs and can get an additional 3 more with Dissipation. The fairy is sacked for 30 seconds, yeah, but it can be combined with Recitation to make a big Adlo shield and Expedient can also be supplemented in too. The second big pull can use the rest of the shield Seraph fairy specific stuff.

AST cards can be used off the global with occasional Aspected Benefic regens to keep the tank up.

EusisLandale essentially already mentioned the Haima / Panhaima combined with Kerachole / Taurochole strat for SGE as well. Technically Physis first since it boosts healing done.

This is all just looking at it from the healer perspective too. If the tank is a PLD or WAR, that's even less healing potentially needed and could warrant some healing cooldowns getting postponed a little bit longer. At least until Requiescat / Imperator or Bloodwhetting is done.