#FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE

[Aravell]

That's literally what they did when SHB dropped. One day, healers were somewhat enjoyable (SB), the very next, they were dog water (SHB).

Not to mention that they never tested any of the changes, so SCH and AST launched broken.

SCH got their main resource dump removed and they were just able to throw out obscene amounts of healing with no cost, which a lot of people thought was garbage design back then (until SGE launched with the exact same obscene amounts of healing for free, then suddenly people are somehow ok with it).

And them AST also launched severely underpowered and I believe they were also MP-negative on ShB launch. Not to mention the travesty that was 5.0 launch Sleeve Draw.

They've shown that they're perfectly happy with massively changing jobs with little to no warning, they don't even seem to really care if it launches in a playable state.

[SamLeens]

Not to mention that they never tested any of the changes, so SCH and AST launched broken.

How do you know that? and your feelings don't count as proof.

SCH got their main resource dump removed and they were just able to throw out obscene amounts of healing with no cost, which a lot of people thought was garbage design back then (until SGE launched with the exact same obscene amounts of healing for free, then suddenly people are somehow ok with it).

Thats called "moving on". Not everyone wants to stay in the past.

And them AST also launched severely underpowered and I believe they were also MP-negative on ShB launch. Not to mention the travesty that was 5.0 launch Sleeve Draw.

You should move on too. I mean, who cares about ShB when we're all in Dawntrail. Well, maybe you're still in ShB.. who knows.

They've shown that they're perfectly happy with massively changing jobs with little to no warning, they don't even seem to really care if it launches in a playable state.

Where? When? How do you know that? And let's not dwell on the past for a change, but talk about the present.

it all sounds so deliberately malicious. if se is the villain, i wonder why you keep playing the villain's game.

[Aravell]

it all sounds so deliberately malicious. if se is the villain, i wonder why you keep playing the villain's game.

Wow, so pointing out things that historically did happen is malicious now.

Ok, let's cancel history and not learn from the past!

[Supersnow845]

How do you know that? and your feelings don't count as proof.


Thats called "moving on". Not everyone wants to stay in the past.


You should move on too. I mean, who cares about ShB when we're all in Dawntrail. Well, maybe you're still in ShB.. who knows.


Where? When? How do you know that? And let's not dwell on the past for a change, but talk about the present.

it all sounds so deliberately malicious. if se is the villain, i wonder why you keep playing the villain's game.

1) the fact that square buffed MP regen on aetherflow/energy drain and said it was because a lack of MP on SCH, same as giving MP to draw, they specifically said the mana economy of those two was broken and the jobs didn’t function because of it. they also changed old sleeve draw specifically because they said it didn’t work

2) not everyone wants the modern job design either but apparently we don’t get a choice

3) because these problems from ShB still haven’t been fixed

4) DT BLM is an example, the ShB healers are another, 4.2 WAR is another, 5.0 MCH, 7.0 MNK, it actually happens relatively often

[Aravell]

4) DT BLM is an example, the ShB healers are another, 4.2 WAR is another, 5.0 MCH, 7.0 MNK, it actually happens relatively often

Let's not forget selfish DPS SAM that launched doing less damage than support DPS NIN.

Also the ongoing lie of selfish DPS MCH.

[Isala]

How do you know that? and your feelings don't count as proof.


Thats called "moving on". Not everyone wants to stay in the past.


You should move on too. I mean, who cares about ShB when we're all in Dawntrail. Well, maybe you're still in ShB.. who knows.


Where? When? How do you know that? And let's not dwell on the past for a change, but talk about the present.

it all sounds so deliberately malicious. if se is the villain, i wonder why you keep playing the villain's game.

How do we know? BECAUSE WE WERE THERE. And why does SHB matter? BECAUSE THEY HAVEN'T UPDATED HEALERS SINCE SHB.

Go troll somewhere else.

[SamLeens]

Wow, so pointing out things that historically did happen is malicious now.

Ok, let's cancel history and not learn from the past!

So you can't provide any evidence for your statements and are now switching to the topic of history. That's an evasive maneuver that you can do, but it definitely reduces the credibility of the statements.
As a german, i can confirm that history is important. But it's not about living in the past or comparing every aspect with the past. The past should not be forgotten so that it doesn't repeat itself. Not forgetting and living in it or relating everything to it are two different things.

[Aravell]

So you can't provide any evidence for your statements and are now switching to the topic of history. That's an evasive maneuver that you can do, but it definitely reduces the credibility of the statements.
As a german, i can confirm that history is important. But it's not about living in the past or comparing every aspect with the past. The past should not be forgotten so that it doesn't repeat itself. Not forgetting and living in it or relating everything to it are two different things.

If you wanted evidence, you could very easily read the patch notes.

It's not my obligation to dig through patch notes for hours just to convince someone on the internet.

You want to dismiss me? Go ahead. You're not the one that needs to understand the design issues, SE is.

[Wilford111]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Poqu6p7F8S4
EX2 too with a PLD tank and 7 DPS.

Looking forward to seeing everyone who is striking to clear with this comp

[SamLeens]

1) the fact that square buffed MP regen on aetherflow/energy drain and said it was because a lack of MP on SCH, same as giving MP to draw, they specifically said the mana economy of those two was broken and the jobs didn’t function because of it. they also changed old sleeve draw specifically because they said it didn’t work

2) not everyone wants the modern job design either but apparently we don’t get a choice

3) because these problems from ShB still haven’t been fixed

4) DT BLM is an example, the ShB healers are another, 4.2 WAR is another, 5.0 MCH, 7.0 MNK, it actually happens relatively often

Hello Aravell. I didnt know you had more than one account. It's nice that you found more than just "history" to justify your statements.

1) that doesnt confirm that they "never tested any of the changes".
2) "until SGE launched with the exact same obscene amounts of healing for free, then suddenly people are somehow ok with it" that's the point i was trying to make, and that's still called "moving on" or "growing." You change your mind about a lot of things throughout your life. That's normal.
It's weird playing an MMO and knowing it's a long-lasting game that changes things, but then wanting to play old classes instead. It's a contradiction in terms.
3)No, according to your text that was in the past. I don't see that it's a current problem either.
4) This is a list without sources. Its just as valid as the text before.