#FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE

[Isala]

I just ignore people who bring no arguments aside from "You're too casual!" or "You're too elitist and out of touch!", they don't bring any discussion to the table.

All they're doing is bumping the thread back to the front page.

I've said it before in this giant mess of pages. Both casuals and elitists are united on this one. Healers suck. Sure, there are defenders of this... design choice, but there are also defenders of Wuk Lamat and the MSQ, and she's just as bad as the healers this expansion.

[Striker44]

Yep and that is why ARR SCH is what healers should be, yes with all those dots. You got some healing tools and mitigation, but your actual job is still dealing damage.

I would say this is exactly what healers shouldn't be....I play healers to heal. If I want my "actual job" to be dealing damage, I'll...you know...play a damage dealer. When I play a healer, I want to heal. Doing damage is the side job that happens along the way. But healing is the priority.

I've said it before in this giant mess of pages. Both casuals and elitists are united on this one. Healers suck. Sure, there are defenders of this... design choice, but there are also defenders of Wuk Lamat and the MSQ, and she's just as bad as the healers this expansion.

No, a specific relatively small group of people (in the context of the entire playerbase) are dissatisfied with healers, and even among them there is nothing resembling unity as to why. Those who choose to post here on these forums do not in any way, shape or form represent "casuals" or "elitists" as if they're some monolithic bloc. The second half of your comment just shows an ability to separate personal opinion from objective fact. And then wonder why this forum doesn't get taken seriously...

[Shurrikhan]

True as it needs to be a debuff that gives you a gameplay reward. To be honest, I wish all dots just came with blm's thundercloud trait baked in. As that provides at least some neuron activation.

When the DoT is uniquely instant cast or has other situational value, the DoTs themselves do that, arguably more so than when a random proc is involved...

When you have something like Thundercloud and no finnicky window (at a length equal to a very high portion of its duration) against which it competes, thought gets limited simply to whack-a-mole (hitting it when it glows), a la Refulgent Arrow. However, without that RNG, there is far more choiceful uptime contribution worth considering.

[Jojoya]

how about try savage and ultimate on patch next time ?

That was supposed to be another way to show casual player how the healer role is important in endgame content.

I'm not one of the strikers with the big complaints. Most of those I play with need healers and not just green DPS. While I have some agreement with a few of the striker concerns, most I don't.

But I'm curious to see how things are turning out for those who were making the claims that healers aren't needed and are striking because of it. Are all their parties getting by without healers as they claim they can?

[Bobby66]

That feeling when a forum post about DT difficulty is catching the rounds of CC but a thread that had a news outlet mention it barely made a splash outside of mocking the strike.

It is a feels bad moment.

Edit: Not to throw shade or anything just seems like for the most part people are at worst neutral towards healers in their current state. Which is a shame since I doubt anything will come of this because for what it seems people really don't seem to care. Which does suck.

[Lak14]

I just ignore people who bring no arguments aside from "You're too casual!" or "You're too elitist and out of touch!", they don't bring any discussion to the table.

All they're doing is bumping the thread back to the front page.

because you are casual ? pls tell me what content you do besides dungeon ? Nothing

N O T H I N G

[Supersnow845]

because you are casual ? pls tell me what content you do besides dungeon ? Nothing

N O T H I N G

Does savage and ultimate make me not casual or am I still not good enough

[Aravell]

because you are casual ? pls tell me what content you do besides dungeon ? Nothing

N O T H I N G

It's cool that you know what type of content I do better than I do.

Thanks for calling me a casual btw, now I can naysay the people who call me an elitist.

[Saraide]

Another forum tourist getting baited by people using an alt as forum face. If I had a dps action for everytime that has happened I would suffer from severe button bloat.

[Kinazu]

So, after lurking for a while, I'm genuinely curious about a few things and I hope that some of you are willing to answer a few questions.

Before getting any flack from the usual people though, I'll preface this by saying that although I don't support the strike myself as I still enjoy Healers in general (I think I'm allowed to have that opinion, no?), I do agree that some changes could improve the role. So again, this is not an attack just genuine curiosity and me wanting some insights about the strike.

1) From what I'm gathering those who support the strike are not queuing up for DF and PF content, yet in the OP it is mentioned that the strike is not meant to be disruptive for those playing the game. Isn't this counter productive in a way?

2) As a follow up, do those that support the strike feel like an impact has been made regarding the no using of PF/DF-route?

Personally, I don't haven't felt difference, but again maybe some of you do. I'd like to hear some insights on this one.

3) Another show for the strike would be to not level Healers, however some have. Isn't this also counter productive due to the achievements tied to obtaining Lv. 100? If anything anyone who levels either White, Astrologian, Sage, Scholar & Summoner regardless of how it's achieved, could, in essence be counted to Healers. Correct me if I'm wrong on this though, but data-wise it could. And SE could use this as a tell sign of how many Healers there are compared to different expansion.

4) What are the changes people actually do want? As I see mixed changes. Some want more DPS options, others want more healing, another wants DPS rotations, that one in the corner wants tank sustain to be tuned back. Or is it a mix of everything?

I'm still rather confused what the strike is supposed to manage/change and there are too many posts in the thread now to backtrack and the OP has not been updated to reflect examples of core changes with clear examples.

5) For those of you who have played Healer in Dawntrailer, what are your opinions? Do you think the additions they added are good? Is it a step in the right direction?


So again, my intent is not to bash the strike, by any means you do you! I just want some insight on the matter now that Dawntrail has been out for a while.