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    Aravell's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chasingstars View Post
    Yep and that is why ARR SCH is what healers should be, yes with all those dots. You got some healing tools and mitigation, but your actual job is still dealing damage.
    I don't think every healer strictly needs a DoT, SCH should have their DoTs returned, but every other healer could have a different system instead.

    Like WHM could have Osmose, every tick after application will generate a stack of 'Elemental Frenzy', at 5 stacks, you proc a random elemental empowered attack, Quake, Flood or Tornado. So you can spend it every 15s or wait for an extra proc for the burst window but risk losing the proc if it procs something you already have.

    AST could have Combust changed into a compilation effect and Stella is returned as a detonator. Cards could also affect the detonation effect, so you'd detonate earlier or delay it for a better effect.

    There's many different ways to do it aside from "every healer gets 3 DoTs", they just have to be creative about it.
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    Zoh Chah
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    Zalera
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aravell View Post
    I don't think every healer strictly needs a DoT, SCH should have their DoTs returned, but every other healer could have a different system instead.

    Like WHM could have Osmose, every tick after application will generate a stack of 'Elemental Frenzy', at 5 stacks, you proc a random elemental empowered attack, Quake, Flood or Tornado. So you can spend it every 15s or wait for an extra proc for the burst window but risk losing the proc if it procs something you already have.

    AST could have Combust changed into a compilation effect and Stella is returned as a detonator. Cards could also affect the detonation effect, so you'd detonate earlier or delay it for a better effect.

    There's many different ways to do it aside from "every healer gets 3 DoTs", they just have to be creative about it.
    True as it needs to be a debuff that gives you a gameplay reward. To be honest, I wish all dots just came with blm's thundercloud trait baked in. As that provides at least some neuron activation.
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    Tani Shirai
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chasingstars View Post
    True as it needs to be a debuff that gives you a gameplay reward. To be honest, I wish all dots just came with blm's thundercloud trait baked in. As that provides at least some neuron activation.
    When the DoT is uniquely instant cast or has other situational value, the DoTs themselves do that, arguably more so than when a random proc is involved...

    When you have something like Thundercloud and no finnicky window (at a length equal to a very high portion of its duration) against which it competes, thought gets limited simply to whack-a-mole (hitting it when it glows), a la Refulgent Arrow. However, without that RNG, there is far more choiceful uptime contribution worth considering.
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