#FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE

[Isala]

And that's actually reportable for abusing the report system. So you'd houdini yourself for toxic behavior. Congrats.

Wrong. The Dev team has gone on record saying that lethargic play is kickable.

[Bobby66]

And that's actually reportable for abusing the report system. So you'd houdini yourself for toxic behavior. Congrats.

See this at the core is what the debate back then looked like. Healers that did not want to do damage felt they were within their right if the content was cleared cause they performed their classes role. Always felt DPS was optional, while they other side felt it DPS was a core part of every role.

Even here yall cannot agree.

[Evergrey]

Wrong. The Dev team has gone on record saying that lethargic play is kickable.

Iirc that was discussed back and forward amongst the community during that time and that SE affirmed it later on, or perhaps during the whole spectacle.
But at the beginning at least it wasn't and people could get reported for kicking them.

[Bobby66]

Iirc that was discussed back and forward amongst the community during that time and that SE affirmed it later on, or perhaps during the whole spectacle.
But at the beginning at least it wasn't and people could get reported for kicking them.

Think the common tactic back then was to silent kicks then quote difference in playstyle or something. Such a long time ago.

[Evergrey]

Think the common tactic back then was to silent kicks then quote difference in playstyle or something. Such a long time ago.

Now that you mention it, it does sound familiar that people spread such a "tactic" in a way for people to more "safely" kick Healers who refused to support the group outside of just healing.
Trick was to not say anything. If anything was said against the Healer, that would be used against you and the other group members who supported that vote.
Some didn't even dare to do a casual greeting at the begining simply because your name(s) would be in the chatlog then, so easy for the healer to remember and point out who was there.

[GrimGale]

And that was what Yoshi mentioned when speaking of not adding more offensive skills in that pre-EW interview. As it would put pressure on the healers from the other group members to use them, where from history that didn't really work out too well.

Now it's even more egregious when healers don't DPS. You have 1 button to press, you better never stand still it's so easy and accessible now.

Clearly they didn't think their strategy through.

[Evergrey]

I really, really hate the argument of "You healers asked for this, you got what you want, and now you're complaining!?", I have to keep reminding people that we are NOT a hivemind, most of us DIDN'T ask for this, most of us were AGAINST this, actually.

I've never seen a single healer main back then who asked for our entire kit to be gutted into the worst healer design in the history of games. I have, however, seen tank and DPS mains who complain about healers not healing them and getting antsy about sitting at 90% HP. Of course, SE has to heed their precious DPS players and destroy the healers for them, because apparently if you have a green icon, you're not allowed to have fun.

I doubt that anyone really thinks that it was all healers who acted this way. But it's simply easier to use a general term when speaking of it, so the word "Healer" as a whole is simply used for the simplicity. Imo at least.
So yes, it was probably a minority of all healers who were like that.
But I can say the same for this Strike.
Not once since the strike began have I seen any mention of it ingame. And I've never seen any # of it in anyone's character profile either.

But hey, even if it might've been a minority who protested against using DPS skills back then and they got their way, maybe this strike, being a minority as well could bring yet another change.
I do however think that the defining difference between then and now is that back then it caused a much larger impact ingame where it was turning players against one another, people got kicked and so forth.
This strike, passive as it is doesn't have the same traction nor negative effects.
Hopefully something will come out of it non the less.

[Mortex]

Like when I don’t heal or have my friends heal for me I get the most impressive glue sniffers as healers you can find (I’m pro healer strike so I find this not even bad it’s just amazing how bad these players are). Doesn’t matter what fight if it’s dungeon or even ex trials. The number of absolut bottom of the barrel healer has gone up by a mile.

And then I thought the content was fun again because no way In hell people struggle this bad and I started lvl and playing healer in the ex fights and it’s still as boring as before. I can watch doctor house and the boys with my friends while doing this content and brain afk. Also good lord my co healers in 90 % of these ex fight groups are these glue sniffer that deal under 6 k dmg and heal less then I do.
Also every party looks almost all the time for healers and sometimes p range cause they are not well liked also.

[Aravell]

Come on you know this is not true, many healers back in the day complained about how they spent more time doing damage verse healing and how they wanted more healing actions. The rolled healer to heal not dps etc... Also it was healer players that complained tanks were annoying to heal due to smaller HP cause of DPS accessory usage.

How nice of you to dismiss my experiences with your own.

No, I did not see any healers complaining about that. When I played back then, healers were pressured to turn OFF Cleric Stance, not turn it on. Parties were content with letting the healer do nothing but heal. Even when I was farming extremes, I was told to not turn on Cleric Stance at all.

Complaints come form both sides but it does make more sense to cater to the larger demographic. I say this as a SMN main since HW. I miss my old smn but majority did not like it so it makes sense to turn it into something more people will play. They are just doing the same with healers and unfort I bet their data will show the strike has not had a major impact to healer numbers.

The thing here is, you don't know that they're catering to a larger demographic, you're assuming that they are, but they've been known to make bad decisions before.

Also, the vast majority of players are silent for a reason, they likely do not care one way or another, so they'd play the jobs they enjoy no matter what. Why should these players be included in the discussion?

In the end, everything is going to be minority vs minority, there is no majority position here.

[Kes13a]

I doubt that anyone really thinks that it was all healers who acted this way. But it's simply easier to use a general term when speaking of it, so the word "Healer" as a whole is simply used for the simplicity. Imo at least.
So yes, it was probably a minority of all healers who were like that.
But I can say the same for this Strike.
Not once since the strike began have I seen any mention of it ingame. And I've never seen any # of it in anyone's character profile either.

But hey, even if it might've been a minority who protested against using DPS skills back then and they got their way, maybe this strike, being a minority as well could bring yet another change.
I do however think that the defining difference between then and now is that back then it caused a much larger impact ingame where it was turning players against one another, people got kicked and so forth.
This strike, passive as it is doesn't have the same traction nor negative effects.
Hopefully something will come out of it non the less.

the answers you seek are on the first page, and people are free to use the hashtag or not, nor is griefing by not healing condoned and those people doing so should be rightfully reported:

This strike is a protest. As such, it is not intended to disrupt the game or the players who have subscribed to FFXIV.
The message of the strike is a collective voice of those who are not happy with the state of healing and healers in FFXIV.