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  1. #7941
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    Ramiee's Avatar
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    Grainne Gothram
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lorika View Post
    Yeeeaaaahh.... I worked sooooo well on GW2 that in the end, the Meta build the most sought after is : https://hardstuck.gg/gw2/builds/rang...lacrity-druid/
    i love gw2 support dps split system but this is such a joke. really shows that every mmo system has their problems, though im sure gw2 will fix this eventually.
    Though in the context of ff14 being roleless like Lann wants, Blue mage exists yet so many people refuse to play it because its not a "real job" yeah because its designed to be completely solo focused and multiplayer optional. Theres also FF11 another trintyless mmo but even for its time the lack of a trinty system is a turn off for a lot of people, i doubt ff14 would ever remove the trinty but if they did I doubt the class design would get any better.
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  2. #7942
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    Kaeline Artelus
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ramiee View Post
    i love gw2 support dps split system but this is such a joke. really shows that every mmo system has their problems, though im sure gw2 will fix this eventually.
    Oh they fixed it : by retablishing the Holy trinity very discreetly, by giving healing tool to some specialization weapon and making some class more tanky.
    In the end the "we got rid of the Holy Trinity" is a failure.

    Also, GW2 have a very big balance issue and, after more than 10 years, ANet is still not capable of fixing it.
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  3. #7943
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    Rhaya Jakkya
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aword3213 View Post
    Sorry to burst your bubble, but WoW is still the most popular MMO on the market. It's more successful than FFXIV

    Even Diablo IV has higher active player count than FFXIV.
    The thing is though we don't exactly know the player numbers for FF XIV, as they're split between platforms. The only people who would know exactly how many people are playing are Square-Enix but they haven't told us.
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  4. #7944
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lorika View Post
    Oh they fixed it : by retablishing the Holy trinity very discreetly, by giving healing tool to some specialization weapon and making some class more tanky.
    In the end the "we got rid of the Holy Trinity" is a failure.

    Also, GW2 have a very big balance issue and, after more than 10 years, ANet is still not capable of fixing it.
    ill take balance problems and amazing job variety and design over boring job design and perfect balance.
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  5. #7945
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    Silver Strider
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ramiee View Post
    ill take balance problems and amazing job variety and design over boring job design and perfect balance.
    Game isn't even perfectly balanced, which just makes it worse
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  6. #7946
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    Kaeline Artelus
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ramiee View Post
    ill take balance problems and amazing job variety and design over boring job design and perfect balance.
    Yeah, no.... Because when i say balance issue t's mean that some class as been Meta since the beginning and some only got meta once or twice for a short time.
    In the end, you'll mostly always run with the same Meta Build.... So there isn't really variety.

    Also, i don't think you'll like GateKeeping (and GW2 GateKeeping is at a pro level).
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  7. #7947
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    Gatekeepers exist in this game too, Ignore them find your own group, im fine with balance being messed up in the meta i main resto shaman in wow so depending on a patch im either strong or unplayable and i still prefer it over stagnation.
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  8. #7948
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ramiee View Post
    Gatekeepers exist in this game too
    I Know but... They are just little kids playing in a sandbox compared to GW2 level XD.
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  9. #7949
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lorika View Post
    I Know but... They are just little kibs playing in a sandbox compared to GW2 level XD.
    ive played gw2 at high level raider as a scrapper healer since heart of thorns came out and old scrapper was a mess but i found it fun as a healer, i ran into elitist who didnt take me during raids because there were better healers, same in wow depending on the patch i couldn't get into random parties for mythic+ but when i made friends who just liked to hang out and knew i enjoyed the class i played they let me play it even if it wasn't meta. Having interesting job design and inbalance leads to a more engaging game but of course meta parse monkeys who will only recruit perfect vetted players but this can be countered easily by making friends and hanging out, no one will take phys range over two casters rn for pure damage but youd take your dancer or machinist friend because you like them. This is a problem you can fix by being social and having fun however a boring job designed game which is far more balanced then most mmos can't be fixed by making friends.
    No matter what you will be a glare mage if you play whm.
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  10. #7950
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    Alarasong Elaha
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    Siren
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    White Mage Lv 91
    Quote Originally Posted by Ramiee View Post
    i love gw2 support dps split system but this is such a joke. really shows that every mmo system has their problems, though im sure gw2 will fix this eventually.
    Though in the context of ff14 being roleless like Lann wants, Blue mage exists yet so many people refuse to play it because its not a "real job" yeah because its designed to be completely solo focused and multiplayer optional. Theres also FF11 another trintyless mmo but even for its time the lack of a trinty system is a turn off for a lot of people, i doubt ff14 would ever remove the trinty but if they did I doubt the class design would get any better.
    Blue mage isn’t a real job because it literally cannot do anything even approaching current level content. Because it’s artificially capped at level 80. Terrible comparison.
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