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  1. #6351
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    Flay_wind's Avatar
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    Lily D'kryl
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    Shiva
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    Dark Knight Lv 97
    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    The 4th day of the strike is now starting. How is it going so far for those of you that are participating?
    Playing DRK/RPR. Having fun.
    From anecdotal experience, there's quite a lot to heal at the moment, because people are new, so they make a lot of mistakes and take avoidable damage. Being not ilvl capped also helps. But from what i've seen so far, i won't say that actual incoming damage drastically increased.
    (2)
    Sometimes rumors are just... rumors.

  2. #6352
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    Basteala's Avatar
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    Basteala Thayne
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    Mateus
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    Gladiator Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by BunnyQueen View Post
    Why would anyone give healer a try when it is so braindead that a chimpanzee that is blindfolded could do it.
    It's honestly think a bigger problem with that comes down to Healer's learning curve. Compared to say...Black Mage, which is an easy to learn, hard to master class (reasonably simple rotation in terms of buttons, but execution is a total bitch), Healers often fall under the "hard to learn, easy to master" deal. New players get overwhelmed by not just all the healing options, but also the idea that instead of "passively" regaining health from another player, they're now responsible for all of that, and it can give newbies a bad case of nerves.

    Thing is...once you get over all out, outside of Ultimates and progressive Savage or just doing some really insane pulls in old content, there's not a lot of ways to make use of your knowledge, and that's frustrating.
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  3. #6353
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    ninjasoldier014's Avatar
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    Miyella Tyata
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    Zalera
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    Sage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by ty_taurus View Post
    It says a lot about a person's character that seeing others unhappy brings them joy. Hope that's not how you treat your friends and family.
    Please try not to get mad and read through my entire post.

    No, it was a joke, and slight sarcasm. I guess the people in this thread aren't smart enough to understand it, as I can see from subsequent posts. Maybe the people here really need a /s after to get it. Merely trying to dispel the ignorant anger. Anyway, I gave it a few days to check back here to see what you guys were talking about, because me and everyone in the game I've played with so far (randos) have jokingly made fun of this "strike" because of how important & quite frankly how busy healers are in dungeons and DT content. Any mad striker reading this, have you actually tried healing this expansion? I have never had this much fun playing as a healer in this game before DT, and that sentiment carried through to the end of the MSQ. (Despite lackluster story, that's another topic). I suggest you play sage, at the very least. I keep seeing posts saying that they have not done so, playing other games, etc. So you stay mad, without actually trying it. Like my original opinion on this "strike", you've created a problem before actually seeing that there is a problem. Even if there is, you've already cried wolf, and seeing how healing is for myself, this "strike" looks like it's got egg all over its face. I'm not saying this to be rude, it's just comical and childish how a lot of these replies read. Also, I'm not directly pointing this at the quoted comment and the person specifically, but generally to this entire post. So I end with this, have you actually tried to heal this expansion? Because it sure is nothing like EW.
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  4. #6354
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    I would like the healer job experience in previous expacs in roulettes to be more engaging first, I have to play through those to get to the DT content, so I don't really care if the DT content is good or not yet.
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    it/its - 14 accessibility is bad, ease of access is not accessibility, jobs are boring. Transphobia ruins real attempts at criticism and it's whack.

  5. #6355
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    BunnyQueen's Avatar
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    Flora Kosaki
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    Golem
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    Warrior Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Basteala View Post
    It's honestly think a bigger problem with that comes down to Healer's learning curve. Compared to say...Black Mage, which is an easy to learn, hard to master class (reasonably simple rotation in terms of buttons, but execution is a total bitch), Healers often fall under the "hard to learn, easy to master" deal. New players get overwhelmed by not just all the healing options, but also the idea that instead of "passively" regaining health from another player, they're now responsible for all of that, and it can give newbies a bad case of nerves.

    Thing is...once you get over all out, outside of Ultimates and progressive Savage or just doing some really insane pulls in old content, there's not a lot of ways to make use of your knowledge, and that's frustrating.
    FF14 is the first MMORPG that I haven't mained a healer in, I started as a healer and dropped it because there just wasn't any healing to be had. Switched to a Tank main and haven't gone back to healing outside of when my wife wants to go tank.
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    #FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE

  6. #6356
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    Flora Kosaki
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    Warrior Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by gllt View Post
    I would like the healer job experience in previous expacs in roulettes to be more engaging first, I have to play through those to get to the DT content, so I don't really care if the DT content is good or not yet.
    They really should fix old content before addressing new content. Old content is why healer mains from other games didn't stay.
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    #FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE

  7. #6357
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    Naychan's Avatar
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    Naychan Le'mew
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    Coeurl
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    The 4th day of the strike is now starting. How is it going so far for those of you that are participating?
    Great, getting in alot of destiny 2 and its been fun and challenging. Also thinking about picking up baulders gate 3 while its on sale. Have a good weekend!
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  8. #6358
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    Like I want the latest content to be good and I'm really glad to hear that it currently is providing an exciting healing experience for some players!

    But like, old content is a massive part of the core game experience. I have to heal and tank for all the people that want to get through the game to play DT and experience it. Unless they want to use NPCs for duties. But lots of people want to queue into dungeons with other players, for progression, daily rewards, leveling, etc.

    So "the new content is good" is cool but it doesn't really solve my problem at all.

    I became a healer and a tank because even with squadrons, crafting, gathering, etc I couldn't always beat DPS queue boredom. I really wanted to enjoy the game and I love DPS jobs but I can only stand so much. So I took the "try healer queue" advice. It turns out I just like all the roles!

    But I immediately noticed how much easier healing and tanking were in dungeon content once I got over the learning curve. And that was in ShB. That was also when I was getting back into DPS and fell in love with SMN but relegated it to my unsyncing dungeons for loot job.

    Now healing and tanking roulette for people is as boring as waiting in the DPS queue for my DPS jobs that have also become more boring. Man. Lmao.

    BLU and pvp remind me this game can be awesome. I'm glad I love crafting and gathering too. They're not perfect but they can be engaging and/or relaxing. I have stuff I enjoy doing in this game.

    But I really like helping people get through MSQ by doing roulettes and it's just becoming less and less rewarding. Getting tomes and stuff does not make up for the bland gameplay experience.

    It's why I don't like partying with friends necessarily, it can be very fun, but I like to play with strangers! Not insulate myself in premade groups and NPC supported content. That's why even when I do use NPCs I always preferred squadrons because while they can be dumb as rocks even when you know what you're doing, the surrounding systems at least make it an interesting minigame for me. The GC rewards are nice.
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    it/its - 14 accessibility is bad, ease of access is not accessibility, jobs are boring. Transphobia ruins real attempts at criticism and it's whack.

  9. #6359
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    Reinha's Avatar
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    Reinha Sorrowmoon
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    Odin
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    Reaper Lv 100
    How are healers busy if as a dps I can duo 50% of a dungeon boss with a DRK? That means the boss only inflicts the equivalent of twice my health bar in damage. A healer would only need to heal me to full once at 50% after which they are not needed anymore. With a warrior tank we could have done it duo from 100% because the party stacks only required two people. So what are people busy healing exactly? Themselves?
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  10. #6360
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    currentlemon's Avatar
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    Celica Genhu
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    Famfrit
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    White Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by ninjasoldier014 View Post
    Please try not to get mad and read through my entire post.

    No, it was a joke, and slight sarcasm. I guess the people in this thread aren't smart enough to understand it, as I can see from subsequent posts. Maybe the people here really need a /s after to get it. Merely trying to dispel the ignorant anger. Anyway, I gave it a few days to check back here to see what you guys were talking about, because me and everyone in the game I've played with so far (randos) have jokingly made fun of this "strike" because of how important & quite frankly how busy healers are in dungeons and DT content. Any mad striker reading this, have you actually tried healing this expansion? I have never had this much fun playing as a healer in this game before DT, and that sentiment carried through to the end of the MSQ. (Despite lackluster story, that's another topic). I suggest you play sage, at the very least. I keep seeing posts saying that they have not done so, playing other games, etc. So you stay mad, without actually trying it. Like my original opinion on this "strike", you've created a problem before actually seeing that there is a problem. Even if there is, you've already cried wolf, and seeing how healing is for myself, this "strike" looks like it's got egg all over its face. I'm not saying this to be rude, it's just comical and childish how a lot of these replies read. Also, I'm not directly pointing this at the quoted comment and the person specifically, but generally to this entire post. So I end with this, have you actually tried to heal this expansion? Because it sure is nothing like EW.
    I'm glad to hear that people are having fun in dungeons again. The max level dungeons look pretty fun. However, my concern is what's going to happen when raid and crafted gear are released? Are those dungeons still going to provide engaging opportunities for the healer? I understand the point of MMOs is to get better gear, but strong gear has invalidated healing mechanics in the past. That's why I'm in favor of having min. item level dungeon roulette added to Duty Finder.

    Healer downtime hasn't been resolved either. Yes, we got new DPS actions, but they are locked behind abilities with long cool downs. Doesn't exactly solve the one button spam when something like Glare IV can only be used three times after two minutes.

    I find Sage unfun to play. The job is not DPS Healer that the devs advertised it to be. Dosis spamming for most of the fight. It's two DoTs don't stack. Has a plethora of redundant healing actions that don't fit SGE at all. The Addersting / Toxikon mechanic is not worth using and is holding the job back. Nothing about that job appeals to me.

    WHM is a better Job than SGE. At least with the former, it has a pretty good reward system for GCD Healing. And it's not bloated with oGCD heals. It's the only Healer Job that got better in my eyes, albeit only slightly, and there's still room for improvement.
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    Last edited by currentlemon; 07-05-2024 at 11:03 PM.

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