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    Player
    Ramiee's Avatar
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    Grainne Gothram
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    Cerberus
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    Black Mage Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Alice_Rivers View Post
    And then it never shows up in the dungeons or trials for some reason.
    Something something too hard for casual healers something something tanks now have a role action for raid wide esuna
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    Allegor's Avatar
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    Red Rider
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    Hyperion
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    Sage Lv 90
    I miss the old ARR and HW type fights where random people getting debuffs was the mechanic, rather than an icon of shame for failing one.
    (4)
    Quote Originally Posted by Allegor View Post
    Can't increase healing requirements because "it'd stress the newbies"
    Can't increase dps options either because "it'd stress the newbies"
    so apparently the only option that doesn't "stress the newbies" is either pressing 1211111111, or do nothing at all.

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    Supersnow845's Avatar
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    Andreas Cestelle
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    Jenova
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    Scholar Lv 100
    They seem to be moving in the direction of esuna Is a way to give healers agency via offering them a choice on how to rectify a mistake by another player that gives a debuff

    Ie- can I solve this by simply using oGCD’s to cover the debuffs effects or do I want to play it safe and use esuna so they aren’t at risk of dying

    I don’t actually mind this approach but it has the fatal flaw of the fact that dungeons hit so little that 99 times out of 100 it’s never worth giving up a GCD for esuna unless the debuff is doom or a long slow. DOT’s can just be ignored and anything like silence of pacification drops off faster than you can use esuna anyway

    I’m totally fine with esuna being the “choice oh how to fix party mistakes” but they have to actually make the debuffs damaging to the party success rate for it to feel meaningful
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    As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.

    I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess

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    Sivante Si'akea
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    Zalera
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    Blue Mage Lv 80
    Esuna isn't really a valid point imo. It's a thing they 'give' healers, but it's hit or miss as to whether it'll even work on a given mechanic. Much like giving interrupts to tanks, but most abilities aren't really interruptable.

    It's like handing out guns to an army, knowing full well half their opposition is immune to bullets. Calling it a utility comes with so many caveats that it's hardly worth thinking about.
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    Mira Clearweaver
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    Jenova
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    Conjurer Lv 90
    They were talking about Lapis so there can only be one type of Doom in there: the Esuna-able ones in case somebody steps on bads.
    (1)

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    Ayalu Jeji
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    Moogle
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    Scholar Lv 100
    The point of the strike was to get attention on the problem, so yes it very much worked. People know about the Strike outside of the Forums it left the bubble, it got coverage on youtube and even some gaming press.
    Its written on the very first post that the strike doesnt aimes for Gameplay disruption
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    Gyalva Guillen
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    Balmung
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    Paladin Lv 100


    Time to get some cash healers, what do you think of this price, is that adequate or too low
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    Grainne Gothram
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    Quote Originally Posted by EponaTBHSMH View Post


    Time to get some cash healers, what do you think of this price, is that adequate or too low
    What a scam, healers should do it for 5mil minimum.
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    Player AvoSturmfaust's Avatar
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    Jin Sohan
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    Shiva
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    Samurai Lv 100
    The biggest issue i see with Healers is literally the fact you cant really do anything much with it if you are real for a second.

    You are split between People which like the 1 or 2 DPS Rotation and People which dont like it, so what will you do? Most People which dont like 1 2 will still play Healer, while people which dont want a complex rotation or anything will probably quit, so it will end in a vacuum where even more healer are missing.

    So the best way in my opinion would be not to change ALL healer but maybe the half of it, give ast/sch a more complex rotation and keep sage/whm easier

    and i talked to a lot of high end healer and tbh none of them actually wanted to have a complex rotation, they are fine with 1-2 so i really dont know how you would change it to make everyone happy
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    Ixa X'phele
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    Zodiark
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by AvoSturmfaust View Post
    and i talked to a lot of high end healer and tbh none of them actually wanted to have a complex rotation, they are fine with 1-2 so i really dont know how you would change it to make everyone happy
    As stupid as this sounds, there actually are quite a few healers that like to do min. healing required with oGCDs, then chill with 12 and maybe get funny number on certain website. Making healer changes while still retaining them is a big conundrum.
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