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  1. #5701
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    Rein_eon_Osborne's Avatar
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    Mira Clearweaver
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    Conjurer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Ramiee View Post
    [...]By the way I'm right. Healer mains for years leaving will effect the quality of healers in PF, didn't say there won't be any healers in PF. All I said was the fact that if a bunch of healer mains who have played it for years stop playing it we will lose out on healers of that quality in PF.
    Case in point, don't have to look back too far: Abyssos. A good amount of 'good healers' who were on hopium got fed up by Asphodelos that they either (a)Seclude themselves to the statics - myself included, or; (b)Stop healing next tiers entirely. What happens next was those same amount of missing healers are being replaced by new healers who were more accustomed to 'modern healerwork'. Suddenly Abyssos comes hard and is also adding an uncontrollable elements such as that one SAM who refuse to use their Feint.

    Now what? These new healers either (a)Realize how $h!tty it was to be subjected to an uncontrollable element & taking the unwarranted blame for that, or; (b)Their 'softened resilience' having been babied by Asphodelos cripples them. Both of these cases leads to them refusing to heal (waiting for 4 hours for barrier healer on a friend's static was definitely fun time lmao). This sort of situation can indeed happen again.

    Regardless, the strike has been meritful. People are talking about the strike. Naysayers are bumping and $h!ttalking the topic which ultimately brings up the discussion to common eyes more than any strikers tried to do. It brings more attention to these topics that both the dismissive job dev team & their white knight defenders desperately try to yell against/shutdown and sweep them under the rug hoping the storm to pass. Good. Let this be a common knowledge: healer role is a dumpster fire. Let more people be exposed to this (shoutout to Xenos for his most recent interview heheh). That'll kickstart the chain reaction and the feedback loop. Strikers who no longer play healer wins either way: quit healer and be happier - or see the conclusion favoring them to return to the role (even happier!).
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    Last edited by Rein_eon_Osborne; 06-30-2024 at 04:48 AM.

  2. #5702
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    Evergrey's Avatar
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    Rexipher Evergrey
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    Odin
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    Quote Originally Posted by ryouma17 View Post
    a strike that does not affect anything is not really a strike
    Maybe "Protest" would've been a more fitting word.
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  3. #5703
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    J'thaldi Rhid
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    Common opposing arguments and their answer:

    "Your strike has failed!" > You never understood the actual goal of the strike.
    "You can be replaced!" > Good. Pop my queues for me.
    "Play some other job then!" > Already have.
    "I/My friends don't see anything wrong with healers." > Good for you, you're free to enjoy them.
    "123 isn't any different than 111" > Literally where did anyone ask for a 123 combo?
    "The forum is a minority!" > Well so are you, by nature of being on this forum.
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  4. #5704
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    Olivia Lugria
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aravell View Post
    Common opposing arguments and their answer:

    "Your strike has failed!" > You never understood the actual goal of the strike.
    "You can be replaced!" > Good. Pop my queues for me.
    "Play some other job then!" > Already have.
    "I/My friends don't see anything wrong with healers." > Good for you, you're free to enjoy them.
    "123 isn't any different than 111" > Literally where did anyone ask for a 123 combo?
    "The forum is a minority!" > Well so are you, by nature of being on this forum.
    If I could pin this I would XD
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  5. #5705
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    WaxSw's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Evergrey View Post
    Maybe "Protest" would've been a more fitting word.


    This only shows how many of the people who are against the strike havent even read the first post of it. They aren't here because they can argue the points, they are here because we dare to criticise their perfect game
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    Quote Originally Posted by IttyBitty View Post
    Emnity management is a group responsibility, HP management is a group responsibility, Mitigation is a group responsibility ,DPS is a group responsibility
    Anybody saying "I only want to <x>" just tells me they are lazy and selfish.

  6. #5706
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    GrimGale's Avatar
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  7. #5707
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    Look at all the people walking in, gloating about how nothing has changed and how this strike accomplished nothing.
    Do you feel better now? Did you really feel the need to come here and laugh at the people trying to make a change?
    Are you happy that healers will likely remain the way they are, and previously passionate players don't want to play anymore?
    What is your goal?
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  8. #5708
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    Rexipher Evergrey
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    Quote Originally Posted by WaxSw View Post


    This only shows how many of the people who are against the strike havent even read the first post of it. They aren't here because they can argue the points, they are here because we dare to criticise their perfect game
    And when did I say I was against it?
    This only shows how quick people are to point fingers as soon as someone says anything that doesn't follow suit.

    Nontheless, people have several times mentioned how calling this a Strike yet this "strike" isn't meant to act like a strike.
    And since this strike is a protest, why not just call it for what it is, a protest?

    Edit:
    and how often hasn't the first page been edited?
    can't expect people who read it way back will re-read it every now and then.
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    Last edited by Evergrey; 06-30-2024 at 02:43 AM.

  9. #5709
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    Rexipher Evergrey
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    Quote Originally Posted by GoatOfWar View Post
    Look at all the people walking in, gloating about how nothing has changed and how this strike accomplished nothing.
    Do you feel better now? Did you really feel the need to come here and laugh at the people trying to make a change?
    Are you happy that healers will likely remain the way they are, and previously passionate players don't want to play anymore?
    What is your goal?
    But interrupting the queues isn't a change this strike is striving for.
    It would simply be a side effect of people switching from healers to other jobs.
    So who cares if the queue is "normal" or not?
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  10. #5710
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    Quote Originally Posted by Evergrey View Post
    And when did I say I was against it?
    This only shows how quick people are to point fingers as soon as someone says anything that doesn't follow suit.

    Nontheless, people have several times mentioned how calling this a Strike yet this "strike" isn't meant to act like a strike.
    And since this strike is a protest, why not just call it for what it is, a protest?
    Because it's not that serious, this isn't real life, no one's life or livelihood is on the line and the OP just came up with a hashtag that in the end was brilliant marketing that drew a ton of attention to this thread and situation. No matter what happens with other people or the game, if you stop playing healer and play some other job that's more fun, you won. Naysay or complain about it being called a "strike" if it makes you feel better but you can't stop people from simply choosing to have more fun in the game. Maybe it should have been called #FFXIVHEALERMALICIOUSCOMPLIANCE or something.
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