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  1. #4921
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    Quote Originally Posted by HighlanderClone View Post
    Kaurhz is right if you want to be raiding.

    Statics and raiders automatically assume you have something to hide if you hide your logs. That means they assume you parse grey.
    This has nothing whatsoever to do with the healerstrike, and whomever started this side discussion, and the extremely poor "data analysis" is probably having a great time watching people get diverted down this rabbit hole.
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  2. #4922
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    Quote Originally Posted by HighlanderClone View Post
    Kaurhz is right if you want to be raiding.

    Statics and raiders automatically assume you have something to hide if you hide your logs. That means they assume you parse grey.
    this is why i think parsing is silly. because like. ffxiv instances are pass/fail. you either get duty complete, or you get duty failed. grading people based on numbers is silly and unnecessary. (and also against terms of service).

    it ONLY makes people behave in a toxic manner.

    how about. "if you parse or try to parse people, thats actually the red flag".

    because it is.
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  3. #4923
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    If someone wants to exclude me based on a lack of data I'd rather not party with them in the first place.

    This also still has absolutely nothing to do with the healer role sucking.
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  4. #4924
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    Let's return to the topic.

    1111111111 rotation for no one or for everyone! /s
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    Last edited by Hellebore_Ghrian; 06-25-2024 at 04:13 AM.
    Healer? What do you even need one for?

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    Quote Originally Posted by IDontPetLalas View Post
    This has nothing whatsoever to do with the healerstrike, and whomever started this side discussion, and the extremely poor "data analysis" is probably having a great time watching people get diverted down this rabbit hole.
    Well we're just informing people on the "culture" so to speak if they want to do raids or apply to statics in the future. It's a statement of fact, not of opinion.

    It's just a warning that you could be kicked from PF groups doing Ultimates or even weekly Savage PFs just for hiding the logs.

    Also Kaurhz and I are not trying to defend the spreadsheet guy at all lol. Just telling you what the situation is currently.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kaurhz View Post
    I beg to differ, personally.

    If your first inclination on someone's take regarding their interpreted issues on healer is just to look them up, and see which content they have or have not done, and then proceed to shame them on that whilst using it as a means to try and assert authority (rather than to try and actually look at the merit or lack thereof of the perspective) then I would say not much learning has taken place.

    But alas, each to their own. He's welcome to do as he wishes, but the fundamental attitude in that behavior is just the same.
    Note: the following quote was in response to Arthars looking up people's tomestone.gg

    Quote Originally Posted by Kaurhz View Post
    The amount of self-importance emanating from this comment is unreal. Surely there's some level of self-awareness on how delusional this is LOL.
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    Last edited by HighlanderClone; 06-25-2024 at 03:56 AM.

  6. #4926
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    Quote Originally Posted by HighlanderClone View Post
    Well we're just informing people on the "culture" so to speak if they want to do raids or apply to statics in the future. It's a statement of fact, not of opinion.

    It's just a warning that you could be kicked from PF groups doing Ultimates or even weekly Savage PFs just for hiding the logs.
    And if you get evidence of this you should report the users who do it. Pretty sure it's against tos.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ramiee View Post
    And if you get evidence of this you should report the users who do it. Pretty sure it's against tos.
    Sure, I started a whole thread over it:

    https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...IVHEALERSTRIKE

    We're just telling aspiring raiders to be careful because the community definitely has some log-gatekeeping the further up you go.

    Of course, if you don't intend on doing anything more than casually raiding it doesn't matter.
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  8. #4928
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    Quote Originally Posted by HighlanderClone View Post
    Kaurhz is right if you want to be raiding.

    Statics and raiders automatically assume you have something to hide if you hide your logs. That means they assume you parse grey.
    I have a static I can join whenever I want. You aren't going to stop me. And I have raided btw, deal with it.

    Not aiming it at you, but anyone who thinks they have some kind of control. You absolutely do not.
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    Last edited by Turtledeluxe; 06-25-2024 at 04:01 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Turtledeluxe View Post
    I have a static I can join whenever I want. You aren't going to stop me. And I have raided btw, deal with it.
    Ok, well, have fun. Neither of us were trying to stop you.
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  10. #4930
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    Quote Originally Posted by HighlanderClone View Post
    Well we're just informing people on the "culture" so to speak if they want to do raids or apply to statics in the future. It's a statement of fact, not of opinion.

    It's just a warning that you could be kicked from PF groups doing Ultimates or even weekly Savage PFs just for hiding the logs.

    Also Kaurhz and I are not trying to defend the spreadsheet guy at all lol. Just telling you what the situation is currently.



    Note: the following quote was in response to Arthars looking up people's tomestone.gg
    This attitude isn't new, it has existed for years, I would be genuinely surprised if anyone with an interest in raiding wasn't already aware of it.. What's new is using it to frighten people away from voicing their opinion in the forums (i.e. harassment) , as such I'm not going to give it any more visibility.
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