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    ryouma17's Avatar
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    Haven Belle
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    Excalibur
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ramiee View Post
    it was super clear that it was just healer mains tired of their role being bad and moving on.
    then its not a strike its just people complaining on the internet
    (5)

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    Rein_eon_Osborne's Avatar
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    Mira Clearweaver
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    Jenova
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    Conjurer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Ramiee View Post
    [...]By the way I'm right. Healer mains for years leaving will effect the quality of healers in PF, didn't say there won't be any healers in PF. All I said was the fact that if a bunch of healer mains who have played it for years stop playing it we will lose out on healers of that quality in PF.
    Case in point, don't have to look back too far: Abyssos. A good amount of 'good healers' who were on hopium got fed up by Asphodelos that they either (a)Seclude themselves to the statics - myself included, or; (b)Stop healing next tiers entirely. What happens next was those same amount of missing healers are being replaced by new healers who were more accustomed to 'modern healerwork'. Suddenly Abyssos comes hard and is also adding an uncontrollable elements such as that one SAM who refuse to use their Feint.

    Now what? These new healers either (a)Realize how $h!tty it was to be subjected to an uncontrollable element & taking the unwarranted blame for that, or; (b)Their 'softened resilience' having been babied by Asphodelos cripples them. Both of these cases leads to them refusing to heal (waiting for 4 hours for barrier healer on a friend's static was definitely fun time lmao). This sort of situation can indeed happen again.

    Regardless, the strike has been meritful. People are talking about the strike. Naysayers are bumping and $h!ttalking the topic which ultimately brings up the discussion to common eyes more than any strikers tried to do. It brings more attention to these topics that both the dismissive job dev team & their white knight defenders desperately try to yell against/shutdown and sweep them under the rug hoping the storm to pass. Good. Let this be a common knowledge: healer role is a dumpster fire. Let more people be exposed to this (shoutout to Xenos for his most recent interview heheh). That'll kickstart the chain reaction and the feedback loop. Strikers who no longer play healer wins either way: quit healer and be happier - or see the conclusion favoring them to return to the role (even happier!).
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    Last edited by Rein_eon_Osborne; 06-30-2024 at 04:48 AM.

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    Aravell's Avatar
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    J'thaldi Rhid
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    Mateus
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    Common opposing arguments and their answer:

    "Your strike has failed!" > You never understood the actual goal of the strike.
    "You can be replaced!" > Good. Pop my queues for me.
    "Play some other job then!" > Already have.
    "I/My friends don't see anything wrong with healers." > Good for you, you're free to enjoy them.
    "123 isn't any different than 111" > Literally where did anyone ask for a 123 combo?
    "The forum is a minority!" > Well so are you, by nature of being on this forum.
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    OliviaLugria's Avatar
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    Sargatanas
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aravell View Post
    Common opposing arguments and their answer:

    "Your strike has failed!" > You never understood the actual goal of the strike.
    "You can be replaced!" > Good. Pop my queues for me.
    "Play some other job then!" > Already have.
    "I/My friends don't see anything wrong with healers." > Good for you, you're free to enjoy them.
    "123 isn't any different than 111" > Literally where did anyone ask for a 123 combo?
    "The forum is a minority!" > Well so are you, by nature of being on this forum.
    If I could pin this I would XD
    (13)

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    Leon Arcadian
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    Quote Originally Posted by Evergrey View Post
    And when did I say I was against it?
    This only shows how quick people are to point fingers as soon as someone says anything that doesn't follow suit.

    Nontheless, people have several times mentioned how calling this a Strike yet this "strike" isn't meant to act like a strike.
    And since this strike is a protest, why not just call it for what it is, a protest?
    Because it's not that serious, this isn't real life, no one's life or livelihood is on the line and the OP just came up with a hashtag that in the end was brilliant marketing that drew a ton of attention to this thread and situation. No matter what happens with other people or the game, if you stop playing healer and play some other job that's more fun, you won. Naysay or complain about it being called a "strike" if it makes you feel better but you can't stop people from simply choosing to have more fun in the game. Maybe it should have been called #FFXIVHEALERMALICIOUSCOMPLIANCE or something.
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    Rexipher Evergrey
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    Odin
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    Quote Originally Posted by Len_ View Post
    Because it's not that serious, this isn't real life, no one's life or livelihood is on the line and the OP just came up with a hashtag that in the end was brilliant marketing that drew a ton of attention to this thread and situation. No matter what happens with other people or the game, if you stop playing healer and play some other job that's more fun, you won. Naysay or complain about it being called a "strike" if it makes you feel better but you can't stop people from simply choosing to have more fun in the game. Maybe it should have been called #FFXIVHEALERMALICIOUSCOMPLIANCE or something.
    True, and this has been brought up before, a couple of times.
    But eventhough it's not real life, only a game, the word "strike" has given people the wrong view of what this really is and what it wants to accomplish.
    So I'm simply saying that if it had been worded differently, people might've approached it differently.
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    Scrappy Moonlord
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    Halicarnassus
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    Quote Originally Posted by Evergrey View Post
    So I'm simply saying that if it had been worded differently, people might've approached it differently.
    yeah they would have,

    pretty sure they would have ignored it lol, it's gotten so much attention because of everyone rushing to dunk on it and it's glorious
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    Grainne Gothram
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    Quote Originally Posted by ryouma17 View Post
    then its not a strike its just people complaining on the internet
    Yes just like you complaining about other people complaining. Just go away if you don't care lmao.
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    Alarasong Elaha
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    Siren
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    White Mage Lv 91
    Quote Originally Posted by Ramiee View Post
    Yes just like you complaining about other people complaining. Just go away if you don't care lmao.
    Hey man as long as it keeps the thread bumped up
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    Alarasong Elaha
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    Siren
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    Had a run through the 91 dungeon just now with a gunbreaker tank. Healer died half way through second and third boss, no rez, still did not matter. Took a couple vuln stacks even and wasn't close.
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