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    Quote Originally Posted by Amity_Roji View Post
    Yes we do. We want engaging healer gameplay.

    *Useless wall of text*

    That's it.
    JUST DO CRITERION DUNGEON FOR ONCE. I swear to God, people complaining about pressing 1 button never healed anything harder than EX, IF they healed EX.
    Pressing 1 button is needed to keep concentration and being able to react to someones fumble and to save the run.
    Ever tried to do at least HW+ AR without healers? You spam rez on sprouts so much, You have no time for super complex rotation.
    1 button spam is so dishonest -- All healers but Astro got 1 filler, 1 dot, 1 burst. Gameplay is: Fill as much fillers as You can while heal/move ; Keep dot ; Time burst with Your allies burst buffs. All while making sure next nuke won't kill anyone.

    Also, only players Your strike is gonna hurt is Sprouts, who already a huge headache in DF. You give them harder time as healers (which they already can't handle and spam Cure 1) and everything folds. Bosses are balanced around healer damage, so if You make "COMPLEX AND ENGAGING" rotation for healers, bosses must be adjusted, but in which direction? Balancing around healers who can't damage, or around those who can? Make dungeons even more of a joke, or a slog?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormhold View Post
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    You assume healers here don't do criterion(?) Or harder content in general...? Same application of one dps button spam, the only wipes I typically see is failing to do a mechanic correctly or enrage. Now that content is rarely seen...unfortunate too, was looking to get my clear on the first criterion, but that is the ropes of content that lacks repeatability value (not really a healer issue).

    Tdr, two-three sentences? There is varying skill level of healers in this thread, please read something before assuming a premise.
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    Last edited by Katish; 06-20-2024 at 11:05 PM.
    #FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE
    1: Healers need something to do when they aren't healing, the lousy one button dps experience and occasional second just is not enough.
    2: The sustain of the nonhealer jobs has taken our job from us...which has left us nothing to do besides our lousy one button dps experience.
    3: We do not need most of the healing buttons...a lot of those buttons can straight up be removed or consolidated. Which would be a good thing to consolidate using the new sys.
    4: Pure & Shield means nothing and having any combination of the two is just overkill.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katish View Post
    You assume healers here don't do criterion(?) Same application of one dps button spam, the only wipes I typically see is failing to do a mechanic correctly or enrage. Now that content is rarely seen...unfortunate too was looking to get my clear on the first one too.

    Tdr, two-three sentences? There is varying skill level of healers in this thread, please read something before assuming a premise.
    Do You do Criterion? Your achivements privated, so I assume not, because by default statement of achievement is locked and burden of proof will lie on You. Will wait for someone who did harder content to judge me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormhold View Post
    Do You do Criterion? Your achivements privated, so I assume not, because by default statement of achievement is locked and burden of proof will lie on You. Will wait for someone who did harder content to judge me.
    I will gladly do one with you right now...? I will hand it to you on a golden platter. Would help me clear as I need fresh bodies...I made it to the last boss on the first one.

    - I assume I won't get a response though, that's how these things typically work out, no one is ever willing to walk the walk with me :C and I need them clears.
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    Last edited by Katish; 06-20-2024 at 11:16 PM.
    #FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE
    1: Healers need something to do when they aren't healing, the lousy one button dps experience and occasional second just is not enough.
    2: The sustain of the nonhealer jobs has taken our job from us...which has left us nothing to do besides our lousy one button dps experience.
    3: We do not need most of the healing buttons...a lot of those buttons can straight up be removed or consolidated. Which would be a good thing to consolidate using the new sys.
    4: Pure & Shield means nothing and having any combination of the two is just overkill.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katish View Post
    I will gladly do one with you right now...? I will hand it to you on a golden platter. Would help me clear as I need fresh bodies...I made it to the last boss on the first one.

    - I assume I won't get a response though, that's how these things typically work out, no one is ever willing to walk the walk with me :C and I need them clears.
    Bro, I'd gladly do run with You. Just so we can see this "healing" defecite eye to eye. But I'm from differend side of the world (Eastern Europe) and play on European DC, and ngl, not willing to level stuff to 90 before DT on NA DC. And ngl - having good party is hardest part getting that ASS clear I did. Best healer fun I had.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormhold View Post
    Bro, I'd gladly do run with You. Just so we can see this "healing" defecite eye to eye. But I'm from differend side of the world (Eastern Europe) and play on European DC, and ngl, not willing to level stuff to 90 before DT on NA DC. And ngl - having good party is hardest part getting that ASS clear I did. Best healer fun I had.
    Sadge, =[. I need to make a Europe Alt, been meaning to but playing from zero I just don't have the time. Maybe if cross regions become a thing.
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    #FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE
    1: Healers need something to do when they aren't healing, the lousy one button dps experience and occasional second just is not enough.
    2: The sustain of the nonhealer jobs has taken our job from us...which has left us nothing to do besides our lousy one button dps experience.
    3: We do not need most of the healing buttons...a lot of those buttons can straight up be removed or consolidated. Which would be a good thing to consolidate using the new sys.
    4: Pure & Shield means nothing and having any combination of the two is just overkill.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katish View Post
    Sadge, =[. I need to make a Europe Alt, been meaning to but playing from zero I just don't have the time. Maybe if cross regions become a thing.
    Sorry to drif this bit offtopic - but this game is really scary and not well designed to play on high ping, so playing EU can have some challenges. Wish You well and good party for clearing future Criterions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormhold View Post
    Do You do Criterion? Your achivements privated, so I assume not, because by default statement of achievement is locked and burden of proof will lie on You. Will wait for someone who did harder content to judge me.
    *Looks at your character's achievements*
    *Sees they've only just cleared the normal variant dungeons for the first time yesterday (6/19/24)*
    You did that on purpose, didn't you? ꉂ (´∀`)ʱªʱªʱª
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mimilu View Post
    *Looks at your character's achievements*
    *Sees they've only just cleared the normal variant dungeons for the first time yesterday (6/19/24)*
    You did that on purpose, didn't you? ꉂ (´∀`)ʱªʱªʱª
    I won't show You my alts, but I'll admit that I only cleared ASS as healer and P9 to P12-1 without P12-2. And healer is ok and stresful enough as it is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormhold View Post
    I won't show You my alts, but I'll admit that I only cleared ASS as healer and P9 to P12-1 without P12-2. And healer is ok and stresful enough as it is.
    Posting on a sock-puppet account sure makes you look creditable and not like you're only posting to stir up drama at all. ٩( ᗒᗨᗕ )۶
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