#FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE

[Bonoki]

Using the term "strike" was undeniably a poor choice, especially since strikes can be frowned upon in certain parts of the world. However, it did succeed in raising awareness, which was its primary goal, and it has ultimately achieved that purpose. Unfortunately, some bad actors are exacerbating the situation, and whataboutism is diverting attention from the main issue. Nonetheless, the strike has highlighted a significant divide within the community about whether Healers are in an acceptable state, indicating that we have reached an impasse.

[Aword3213]

You'll have to face it that this system isn't like other MMOs where you have spacs and all.
This is a mainstream-friendly entrypoint for players who want to try MMOs without much sweat beyond midcore savage raiders.

How is FFXIV mainstream friendly when most would-be sprouts die at account registeration?

Stop trying to make it an MMO it isn't.

[UnconfirmedCat]

You'll have to face it that this system isn't like other MMOs where you have spacs and all.
This is a mainstream-friendly entrypoint for players who want to try MMOs without much sweat beyond midcore savage raiders.

1. The game has never had specs, but healers have still been more challenging in the past from multiple fronts, DPS and healing despite that. The game not having specs is irrelevant, and we have objective confirmation of this in the history of FFXIV after 2.0.
2. No one is advocating for healers to be incredibly difficult. No one is trying to make a dungeon feel like a savage, or even an extreme. I would say nearly every post here is just asking for something more than what healers have currently.
3. You do not need 4 healers to all be the "friendly entrypoint for players." It's self-centered and greedy to want to stop any and all change to even one of the healers that could satisfy other people more.

Stop trying to make it an MMO it isn't.

This is insanely ironic considering the current existence of FFXIV is literally because Yoshi-P had to make the original FFXIV into an "MMO it isn't." Stop trying to dismiss and handwave people away because they have a different opinion than you.

[Loggos]

It really doesn't and shouldn't matter how much content someone has done as a healer. Healesr should have compelling gameplay at all levels of play. Not just savage/ultimate. In extreme, in dungeons, and even in solo instance duties/leveling quests, healers deserve better than they have right now imo in terms of dps buttons. (They don't need more damage total but could really use more engagement in how they do that damage, without over correcting and giving them f ull dps job rotations.)

I think this should be in the OP because it is a perfectly short but accurate response to the "go play harder content" argument that keeps getting brought up again and again and again.

[TBerry]

Missery and Glare 3.

Ah alright.

[Len_]

I think this should be in the OP because it is a perfectly short but accurate response to the "go play harder content" argument that keeps getting brought up again and again and again.

1) People who are saying such things are not reading the OP and never will.
2) Let them bring it up again and again and again and get this thread about healer issues to 999 pages, seemingly against their own interests of making this strike seem silly and insignificant and ensuring nothing changes

Saw some websites comment on this and the comments section in them think this is pointless. But then I saw someone mention that they did a sort of similar strike for healers back in shadowbringers but nothing came of it. The thing is if the complaints have been going for years you would imagine they wojld have noticed… so it makes me wonder if they’re truly happy with the direction or this strike is just a very loud minority.

Who is the "they" you're referring to? I support this strike but I personally don't believe the devs have ever cared about complaints about something not being fun or engaging. The only thing they seem to ever care about and act on are issues that prevent the game from running smoothly and when the status quo is upset. If a situation arose where healers were in such dire need and duties were failing to pop I think the most they would do is add mount incentives like tanks have and then call it a day. But the players have no control over that. In reality there is nothing at stake here. It's more just players in solidarity over this topic with a hashtag that is apparently really triggering people.

[Pandurah]

You can strike all you want if that makes you happy and think it accomplishes anything.

Well, it made you look!

But seriously, I don't want to come for anyone, as I said in an earlier post the biggest thing we face, together, is division amongst the player base. We can agree to disagree without being passive aggressive or resorting to insults.

[CStrife912]

Saw some websites comment on this and the comments section in them think this is pointless. But then I saw someone mention that they did a sort of similar strike for healers back in shadowbringers but nothing came of it. The thing is if the complaints have been going for years you would imagine they wojld have noticed… so it makes me wonder if they’re truly happy with the direction or this strike is just a very loud minority.

[Rekh]

Saw some websites comment on this and the comments section in them think this is pointless. But then I saw someone mention that they did a sort of similar strike for healers back in shadowbringers but nothing came of it. The thing is if the complaints have been going for years you would imagine they wojld have noticed… so it makes me wonder if they’re truly happy with the direction or this strike is just a very loud minority.

You must be one of those "ffxiv 1.0 was great, no need to complain" people.

[aiqa]

Using the term "strike" was undeniably a poor choice, especially since strikes can be frowned upon in certain parts of the world. However, it did succeed in raising awareness, which was its primary goal, and it has ultimately achieved that purpose. Unfortunately, some bad actors are exacerbating the situation, and whataboutism is diverting attention from the main issue. Nonetheless, the strike has highlighted a significant divide within the community about whether Healers are in an acceptable state, indicating that we have reached an impasse.

It's not an impasse at all. "We" don't have to decide if healers get changed or not. And disagreements were to be expected, design by committee is very difficulty even in a professional setting. The only thing players have do is provide feedback. Either in the form of written feedback, or by making different choices in what job to play, or to play FF at all.

Getting outraged over the word "strike" is extremely thin skinned. And I've not seen any good faith posts, explaining in a normal tone that they personally object against the word "strike". As far as I know it's a question/assumption for now, made to explain some of the extreme hostility. And considering the numerous other disingenuous objections to the strike I've seen in this thread, even if someone now comes in to personally object to the word "strike", I am not sure if I'd believe that objection is really about the word "strike" or if it's another disingenuous objection.