#FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE

[Aravell]

And it's not about how easy or not a Healer can do damage, it's the amount of buttons I guess.
If a healer had a dps rotation maybe those " healers that might feel pressured" wouldn't know if they had to focus on that rotation instead of hitting a heal when needed.
Idunno, but this is what Yoshi said during the interniew 2021.

I really don't understand this argument that any extra addition to the damage kit would suddenly make healers forget what role they queued for.

If they're unable to find the right time to use the new things, no one's forcing them to, they can still just DoT up and spam their filler to clear any regular content.

Also, if a healer is presented with the choice of "Heal or someone dies" or "Press Glare and Raise afterwards", the latter is very clearly the wrong choice and they should be regarded as a bad healer for picking it.

[Evergrey]

I really don't understand this argument that any extra addition to the damage kit would suddenly make healers forget what role they queued for.

If they're unable to find the right time to use the new things, no one's forcing them to, they can still just DoT up and spam their filler to clear any regular content.

Also, if a healer is presented with the choice of "Heal or someone dies" or "Press Glare and Raise afterwards", the latter is very clearly the wrong choice and they should be regarded as a bad healer for picking it.

Honestly, I don't either.
I'm simply trying to put myself in Yoshi and the teams position as of why they might've decidied on it.
Personally I would like to see a steady curve of difficulty through out the leveling journey.
People learn to improve when being faced with progressively more challenging content.

[Venarius]

See, this is where I personally draw the line.

a) It is considered as an act of griefing and is against the ToS. But hey, if you want to have the GMs knocking around an expansion launch, then you do you.

Lmao. What are they gonna do about it? Ban someone for playing "bad"? Don't be ridiculous.

[sindriiisgaming]

Lmao. What are they gonna do about it? Ban someone for playing "bad"? Don't be ridiculous.

refusing to heal is 100% against tos

[Eorzean_username]

refusing to heal is 100% against tos

Overtly refusing to use Healing actions is, but not "being too confused by how hard this game is". It's not your fault that CBU3 has distracted you with both Glare and a 30s Dia Timer, and the anxiety and stress is causing you to forget to look at HP Bars.

A lot of consequences can be avoided on planet Earth by simply refusing to admit blame for something unless forced to, because the boundaries of "plausible deniability" are usually pretty nebulous, and it's often harder to actually prove ill-intent compared to merely suspecting it.

FFXIV GMs would probably side with you 100% of the time if your chat log includes a statement like, "sorry, healing is just so hard in this game" or "sorry, I thought you were going to heal yourself".

And being blunt for a moment, this is exactly the environment that Mr. Yoshida has chosen to create — "It's okay to perform terribly in cooperative content at Level 100, this game is meant to be relaxing". When that's your design philosophy, separating-out the difference between "proudly clueless" and "taking the piss" becomes somewhat-difficult.

But regardless, I think this sort of behaviour also isn't really productive, because you have to consider who it's actually affecting.

If you get a Tank that actually understands how to press buttons, then it's likely that no one will even notice that you're not Healing, so you're just subjecting yourself to Healing an FFXIV Dungeon for no reason. You could have used that time to do something more fun, like folding laundry.

If you end up with a Tank that does not understand how to press buttons, then you're basically giving them a death-sentence, and potentially grinding the Dungeon to a stop. That's not fair to the DPS who came along, it's kind-of sad for the clueless Tank (unless you use it as an opportunity to teach them what Mitigation Actions do, since the game itself sure won't), and it's also kind-of pointless for your own self, since having a completely-incompetent Tank is one of the few cases where your presence as a Healer in a Dungeon might actually have a purpose and give you something to do.

[Kaurhz]

Lmao. What are they gonna do about it? Ban someone for playing "bad"? Don't be ridiculous.

There is a difference between playing bad and refusing to heal, and if you don't think the difference can be discerned then I don't think there's much of a conversation to actually be had.

But hey, if you're so confident about it, go along with the ruse, and then if and when DPS die, why don't you go along and tell them "Sorry guys, I am refusing to heal because I am on strike, but I am still here as a 'healer' btw", and then see how long it takes for you to... Find out.

[Venarius]

refusing to heal is 100% against tos

It's not like they know. If an DPS dies, well - how unfortunate. Tragic even.

You guys take yourself way too serious.

[TheDustyOne]

It's not like they know. If an DPS dies, well - how unfortunate. Tragic even.

You guys take yourself way too serious.

As is described in the Prohibited Activities page here:



Yeah, don't do this. The strike does not want this and is only concerned with getting Square to actually understand why people don't find healers fun and why they are abandoning the role.

[Laerune]

It's not like they know. If an DPS dies, well - how unfortunate. Tragic even.

You guys take yourself way too serious.

Cant the GM look at the logs and see what skills the players have used?

[Evergrey]

Cant the GM look at the logs and see what skills the players have used?

They ask for name, server, duty/location and time so they can access the data collected during that, so yeah, probably.