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    Assur's Avatar
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    Aurora Aurea
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    Tonberry
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Basteala View Post
    Simple: so say a tank does a Wall to Wall pull. They know their mitigation, they rotate cooldowns, they do everything a healer wants a tank to do--make the damage intake predictable and manageable. I think most semi decent and better tanks will tell you that this is good execution of the role.

    The problem is that in EW, and apparently DT, the damage intake under these optimal conditions doesn't slow so much as full on stop..sometimes literally in WAR's case due to a spammable Bloodwhetting that can full heal a wall2wall with one instant cast GCD.

    So you're a healer and the tank doesn't need you. What do you do?

    Well if the DPS are *super* bad and eating vuln stacks like a Dragoon stereotype, you can heal them. If not, you do your damage rotation.

    If you're in a single target fight, you cast your 30 second DoT. Then you spam cast your ability. You have one. For WHM it's Glare, for SCH, it's Broil, etc. If you're lucky, you may have a CD that gives you like...one extra button every minute. For two-three seconds.

    As a result, for like 55 out of every 60 seconds, you're just hitting one button until you need to heal, and if you DON'T need to heal, you're hitting just one button.

    And for AoE, it's even worse. You have one AoE ability. I hope you like it.
    You cite WAR here. This is a problem about WAR being busted, and not about tanks in general invaldiating your role. Only WAR can pull this off and maybe PAL, but surely not GNB or DRK.

    For me, the damage in take doesn't stop at all when I am hoovering often at 20% and 30% HP constantly despite the healers healing. Maybe the expert here find time to spam AoE there too, but I am not sure how reprenstative this is a for all palyers.
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    Basteala's Avatar
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    Basteala Thayne
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    Mateus
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Assur View Post
    You cite WAR here. This is a problem about WAR being busted, and not about tanks in general invaldiating your role. Only WAR can pull this off and maybe PAL, but surely not GNB or DRK.

    For me, the damage in take doesn't stop at all when I am hoovering often at 20% and 30% HP constantly despite the healers healing. Maybe the expert here find time to spam AoE there too, but I am not sure how reprenstative this is a for all palyers.
    Correction: I used WAR as a point of emphasis. It's also the tank I know best. But honestly even healing GNB isn't too hard if they correctly use Rampart and Nebula and Heart of Corrundum (sp) and Camouflage.

    Also Healer isn't my role. Not any more. I swapped to Black Mage months ago, have been enjoying it, and quite frankly I'm just here to give the perspective of the Healer Main's frustrations without the emotional baggage of going into DT as a Healer Main.
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