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  1. #4811
    Player Aword3213's Avatar
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    Eizen Aifread
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    Typhon
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    Monk Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Striker44 View Post
    There's quite a few who have decided they can't stand that there's even one single positive thread about healing on the forums, and have felt the need to invade it and make passive-aggressive and snarky comments about people enjoying healing. I'd definitely see that as griefing.
    It’s ironic that you always see it as your sacred duty to be the representative of the silent majority and bring “majority in game vs minority forum” argument to Every. Single. Thread made with criticism and discussion in mind.

    You yourself fit your definition of griefing rather perfectly
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  2. #4812
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    Laerune's Avatar
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    Yu Zeneolsia
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    What happend to the likes on OP post, it was 465 likes and now its 355

    Sign that supporters of the strike are walking back on what they were going to do?
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  3. #4813
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    Mira Clearweaver
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    Jenova
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    Conjurer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by PercibelTheren View Post
    […]Pesonally, I'm of the opinion that the game should slowly ramp up in difficulty while offering support for players to improve at their jobs. Not knowing the basics by 80+ is stupid. I don't mind that people want to treat FFXIV as a single player game but, even on easy mode, even most single player RPGs I've encountered required at least some level of competency to get through.
    It’s a conundrum, yeah. It’s why I believe having more fail states than we currently have at the moment would’ve been healthier—by that I mean, introduce them gradually. Let players build that resilience against frustration. It’s good for them as a player in long run. Let them grow; let them learn; let them fail; let them relearn, they’ll come out better.

    Lack of such resilience compounded by how watered down the jobs are made us focus incessantly i.e. over minor 1-3 dps losses because.. what else there left to focus on? Everything becomes black & white. Encounter design in return cannot account for the in-between, they just straight up become a one shotting galore.
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  4. #4814
    Player Venarius's Avatar
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    Celeste Valeria
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    Zodiark
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    White Mage Lv 100
    I'll be striking by playing WHM but without any heals on my hotbar. No one can blame me for playing my three button DPS class like SE intended to.
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  5. #4815
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    Rawker Stone
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    Excalibur
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    Paladin Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Laerune View Post
    What happend to the likes on OP post, it was 465 likes and now its 355

    Sign that supporters of the strike are walking back on what they were going to do?
    Considering your previous interactions on this thread was rather... interesting, to say the least, I am greatly suspicious of the intent of this reply. For someone who believed that the movement will not prosper and that devs will simply ignore, you have paid more attention to the number of likes this thread has garnered. Truly interesting for someone such as myself who supports the strike but didn't bother tracking the number of likes.
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  6. #4816
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    Supersnow845's Avatar
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    Andreas Cestelle
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    I’ve long since stopped looking at how many likes are on Gemina’s post (hell I don’t know if I have actually liked it myself) for me the strike has already achieved everything I want it to achieve

    If this much attention ends up achieving nothing I can be safe in the knowledge that me soapboxing in the healer forums truly is pointless so I can finally abandon this trash fire of a role without feeling bad about it
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    As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.

    I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess

  7. #4817
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    Rein_eon_Osborne's Avatar
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    Mira Clearweaver
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    Quote Originally Posted by rawker View Post
    Considering your previous interactions on this thread was rather... interesting, to say the least, I am greatly suspicious of the intent of this reply. For someone who believed that the movement will not prosper and that devs will simply ignore, you have paid more attention to the number of likes this thread has garnered. Truly interesting for someone such as myself who supports the strike but didn't bother tracking the number of likes.
    Did the post even get over 400+ likes, or is it people misconstruing between OP upvote count vs thread page count?
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  8. #4818
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    Rawker Stone
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    Excalibur
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    Paladin Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Rein_eon_Osborne View Post
    Did the post even get over 400+ likes, or is it people misconstruing between OP upvote count vs thread page count?
    I am more inclined to think that it's the latter. People will do whatever it takes to stir the pot.
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  9. #4819
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    Tora Noyama
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    Phoenix
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    Lancer Lv 100
    Oi, guy of the #healerstrike list.
    I just discovered this list. I’m a DRK main, not a lancer. How was I suppose to do savages and ult as a LNC? O.o

    Am also DRG main…at least put DRG!!
    I appreciate thank you.
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  10. #4820
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    Rexipher Evergrey
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    Odin
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Venarius View Post
    I'll be striking by playing WHM but without any heals on my hotbar. No one can blame me for playing my three button DPS class like SE intended to.
    ""Yoshida: So I totally understand that those healers that have a very high player skill level and they’ve really mastered their jobs go into these different raids or battles and when they do have some downtime between their heals they do cast more offensive spells. Some of them desire to have more technical aspects of it so they are more active and I totally understand that sentiment. But of course the basis of a healer is to heal so I think the development team and I have this thinking of getting that sense of exhilaration from doing really good heal work.

    That being said I don’t think we would do any sort of dramatic addition of offensive skills moving forward. By having these offensive abilities some players, like new healers, might feel pressured like “oh do I have to have good DPS while I’m healing?” or some players might be aggressive like “oh hey you have an offensive skill in your kit, why don’t you use it?” and I don’t think that’s optimal either.""


    From Yoshi's statement from before EW release you should be taking off your DPS skills, as DPS is not what SE indended.
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