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    OdinelStarrei's Avatar
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    Odinel Starrei
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kathryn View Post
    Cant say I agree with this, if you truly believe in something you will put all of yourself on the line and be open to any scrutinization, by hiding behind an alt you have no real agenda and you are showing you are scared of actual criticism.

    Im not here to doompost but hiding behind an alt will not help you agenda.
    I'm going to be really honest and up front with you, and not in a confrontational way, just want to talk about my experience.

    I am someone who is doing exactly what you are saying. I am also a player who has been pretty critical of mostly tanks, but also healers and some other miscellaneous things SE has done.

    Because I have not made any attempts to hide who I am, I have had players send me tells ingame and on discord telling me to kill myself, and worse, because all I do is "criticize the developers".

    I don't blame anyone for using alts or taking measures to avoid harassment. This community has proven that the more fanatical types will go after people no problem.
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    Last edited by OdinelStarrei; 06-16-2024 at 05:08 PM.
    Quote Originally Posted by CelestaRosa View Post
    this is my opinion. don't have share my opinion. don't have like my opinion. but know nothing you say or do is gonna make me change my opinion. if don't like that tough.

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    Player Kathryn's Avatar
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    Nanapie Kimura
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    Quote Originally Posted by OdinelStarrei View Post
    I'm going to be really honest and up front with you, and not in a confrontational way, just want to talk about my experience.

    I someone who is doing exactly what you are saying. I am also a player who has been pretty critical of mostly tanks, but also healers and some other miscellaneous things SE has done.

    Because I have not made any attempts to hide who I am, I have had players send me tells ingame and on discord telling me to kill myself, and worse, because all I do is "criticize the developers".

    I don't blame anyone for using alts or taking measures to avoid harassment. This community has proven that the more fanatical types will go after people no problem.
    I understand this can happen but document the messages with screenshots, blacklist the person and send it to SE these people will get their accounts banned and rightfully so.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kathryn View Post
    I understand this can happen but document the messages with screenshots, blacklist the person and send it to SE these people will get their accounts banned and rightfully so.
    What do you think I've done? Me and the GMs are on good terms, I assure you. As for discord, well if it's coming from a new account with a newly created email address, there's not much you can do but refuse DMs from all people not on the friends list. Imagine having someone fishing and proding for your other online accounts simply because you weren't happy about the tank reworks, so you can get heckled off platform.

    You've seen it. The insults, the joy people will take in deliberately aggravating other people, or going out of their way to misinterpret some pretty well established guidelines. We don't have moderators here to police inflammatory statements. We don't have community leaders who are going to advocate for us, because the "silent majority" will always be larger than us. We don't have frequent communications about the issues we really care about. And we are constantly surrounded by arguments, and accusations.

    So, again. I don't blame anyone for not signing themselves up to be screwed with. It's really troubling after awhile. A nihilistic perspective is understandable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CelestaRosa View Post
    this is my opinion. don't have share my opinion. don't have like my opinion. but know nothing you say or do is gonna make me change my opinion. if don't like that tough.

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    Yasu Naoya
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    Quote Originally Posted by OdinelStarrei View Post
    I'm going to be really honest and up front with you, and not in a confrontational way, just want to talk about my experience.

    I am someone who is doing exactly what you are saying. I am also a player who has been pretty critical of mostly tanks, but also healers and some other miscellaneous things SE has done.

    Because I have not made any attempts to hide who I am, I have had players send me tells ingame and on discord telling me to kill myself, and worse, because all I do is "criticize the developers".

    I don't blame anyone for using alts or taking measures to avoid harassment. This community has proven that the more fanatical types will go after people no problem.
    Which is why I always laugh when people tell me "FFXIV has a great, positive community". No, it does not. It's toxic positivity at best, and it works like a hivemind many times. People are so enamored with the game, very few ever leave the honeymoon phase and will slander you for criticizing the game or the dev team. It's completely absurd.

    SE nor the dev team cares about you, they just want your money, it's that simple. Had SE been a private company instead, then they wouldn't need to please shareholders.
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