#FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE

[ZephyrMenodora]

Can we all agree to stop lying about third parties? Twitter is not universally laughing at the strike. I searched for it after you post, and saw people agreeing and even joining the strike.

I didn't say anything about it is universal. I said "a lot of people." I was on Twitter yesterday and that's what the algorithm showed me.

Looking at a Tweet now with 2300 upvotes calling the strike stupid.

[Turtledeluxe]

I didn't say anything about it is universal. I said "a lot of people." I was on Twitter yesterday and that's what the algorithm showed me.

Algorithms are tailored to your own bias. Maybe try actually digging-- some of the people's posts joining and mocking the state of healers are actually pretty hilarious.

[OgruMogru]

I empathize with some of the concerns in this thread, but the mere existence of Duty Support and the fact that the overwhelming majority of healer players aren't browsing the forums or engaging in a strike means this will have effectively no impact whatsoever.

That being said, the sheer size of this thread may being the issue to devs attention at least, even if the strike itself is almost certainly DOA.

You cannot do roulettes with trusts.

[WeakestZenosEnjoyer]

Actually we are not workers, SE is not our employer, we have no employment contract with SE, and we receive no renumeration for our 'work' as healers.

In real world money, no, but in game currency we do. "In-Need" bonuses and the benefit of short queues.

A boycott is withholding money by refusing to pay for the service, which isn't the plan (though some people definitely are anyway) we're just not performing the healer "job" anymore. You can argue neither fit but it's definitely not a boycott.

[WeakestZenosEnjoyer]

Duty Support is a complete ass. Trusts do not AoE, so pulls take a lot of time than a regular group.

They actually absorb your DPS contribution by lowering their own damage to make the dungeon take roughly X minutes.

They also really don't cope with multi-pulls well and can't get you into a roulette, it's not a very clean solution.

[ZephyrMenodora]

They actually absorb your DPS contribution by lowering their own damage to make the dungeon take roughly X minutes.

They also really don't cope with multi-pulls well and can't get you into a roulette, it's not a very clean solution.

I think this is a good thing for an MMO. They shouldn't compete with playing with people. Great learning tools, for those who really hate grouping but still want to play an MMO for wahtever reason, or for those who don't have time to wait to start a dungeon.

[Ellona_Andrivari]

Healers when nothing changes: We are not happy, please fix it.

Healers when something changes: We are not happy, please fix it.

[ZephyrMenodora]

Healers when nothing changes: We are not happy, please fix it.

Healers when something changes: We are not happy, please fix it.

???? I haven't noticed any changes for healers that address our issues of being bored, having boring DPS rotations, and nothing to heal. Not sure where your second sentence comes from.

[Priddy]

Duty Support is a complete ass. Trusts do not AoE, so pulls take a lot of time than a regular group.
Trusts healers are also very bad at their job, like unless you're a WAR and doing W2W pulls you are in a very real danger of just dying because Alphi or Urianger are too busy twiddling their thumbs.
Forcing W2W on Trusts as a DPS is also pretty dangerous since you yourself run the risk of just being auto'd to death before Thancred manages to peel the mobs off you. It is doable, and i'd say it's actually fun, but you really need to know how to do that efficiently. Also you do run into potential issue of Trusts not being able to handle said W2W.
if you somehow mess up and die, it immediately boots you to the start.

Yeah, that's by design, to prevent Duty Support from outright replacing player queues. But as a DPS player presented with a 30m+ queue due to the lack of healer's queueing, you can just get around it by running the dungeon in duty support. The extra 5 - 10 minutes it takes to clear the dungeon because the NPCs suck at DPSing isn't much of a deterrent when the alternative is to wait even longer for a player queue. Trusts being bad at healing is also pretty irrelevant when the entire reason this thread exists is because healers are literally completely unnecessary in dungeons lol

The real rebuttal that you should bring up is when you get to a Trial, but even then, when I got to the lv83 trial when Endwalker launched, and we couldn't get a queue to pop because not enough players had gotten that far yet, we just opened a PF and had a SMN main switch to SCH for the fight, and we just cleared it with 1 tank, 1 healer, and 6 dps.

[Flay_wind]

~Trusts are bad by design~


The real rebuttal that you should bring up is when you get to a Trial, but even then, when I got to the lv83 trial when Endwalker launched, and we couldn't get a queue to pop because not enough players had gotten that far yet, we just opened a PF and had a SMN main switch to SCH for the fight, and we just cleared it with 1 tank, 1 healer, and 6 dps.

That is true, ye. And it does save you time running a dungeon with trusts with an instant queue as a dps as opposed to waiting for regular dps queue. It's a decent time saver, i did it myself.
But Trusts can't run roulettes with you. So you can't benefit from a Roulette bonus, namely the main roulettes people run. Leveling or MSQ for exp or Expert for tomestones.

Also valid point. But people already did PF new content naturally especially when it's brand new.