#FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE

[Kathryn]

This is exactly why I use an alt as a display character.

People who stalk your profiles are those who realise they cannot challenge your stance so they stalk your stuff to try and pull authority over you and discredit your argument.

Having people out themselves in that way is one of the best reasons to use a display alt.

Cant say I agree with this, if you truly believe in something you will put all of yourself on the line and be open to any scrutinization, by hiding behind an alt you have no real agenda and you are showing you are scared of actual criticism.

Im not here to doompost but hiding behind an alt will not help your agenda.

[Supersnow845]

Cant say I agree with this, if you truly believe in something you will put all of yourself on the line and be open to any scrutinization, by hiding behind an alt you have no real agenda and you are showing you are scared of actual criticism.

Im not here to doompost but hiding behind an alt will not help your agenda.

It doesn’t matter what we do

If we show off our pink ultimate clears people will call us out of touch high end raiders, if we show off we haven’t done savage, done it sporadically or parse poorly in it people will say we are casuals who should just play high end

There is no “right person” to be making this argument in the eyes of people like you

[Kathryn]

It doesn’t matter what we do

If we show off our pink ultimate clears people will call us out of touch high end raiders, if we show off we haven’t done savage, done it sporadically or parse poorly in it people will say we are casuals who should just play high end

There is no “right person” to be making this argument in the eyes of people like you

That doesnt matter and once again you attack me, this is extremely toxic and vile and is back of fourth of constant bickering, there's no real ideas in this thread only one side attacking the other.

You healers attacking anyone who comes in disagreeing with you, you don't try and dicuss, you outright attack and of course there's there trolls coming in here mocking you but instead of ignoring them you engage and attack further.

I tried to make a consensus about 100 pages back now to see if I could get an inline idea of what everyone wants, I got 1 response that was honest and had reasons with what changes they would like to see, everyone else engaged the trolls and continued bickering.

You have all doomed your own post because if I was a dev coming in here trying to see the feedback I would just see players bickering and check out, I honestly dont blame the devs thus far for not acknowledging this.

[Supersnow845]

That doesnt matter and once again you attack me, this is extremely toxic and vile and is back of fourth of constant bickering, there's no real ideas in this thread only one side attacking the other.

You healers attacking anyone who comes in disagreeing with you, you don't try and dicuss, you outright attack and of course there's there trolls coming in here mocking you but instead of ignoring them you engage and attack further.

I’m not attacking you I’m saying “who is the correct person to be arguing this” in your eyes

People have attacked Gemima for not doing savage, I’ve had my opinion on P10S try to be dismissed because I don’t have 10 logs on Andreas (again like aravell I use an alt for raids), but on the other hand people have also attacked people like Ty or forsaken for being too good at the game to have an opinion on this

Who is allowed to have an opinion on this, our logs shouldn’t matter, we are all healer mains and we are all sick of modern healers

[PercibelTheren]

That doesnt matter and once again you attack me, this is extremely toxic and vile and is back of fourth of constant bickering, there's no real ideas in this thread only one side attacking the other.

You healers attacking anyone who comes in disagreeing with you, you don't try and dicuss, you outright attack and of course there's there trolls coming in here mocking you but instead of ignoring them you engage and attack further.

I tried to make a consensus about 100 pages back now to see if I could get an inline idea of what everyone wants, I got 1 response that was honest and had reasons with what changes they would like to see, everyone else engaged the trolls and continued bickering.

You have all doomed your own post because if I was a dev coming in here trying to see the feedback I would just see players bickering and check out, I honestly dont blame the devs thus far for not acknowledging this.

I'm sorry, but you came into this thread guns blazing, argued with people and now you are complaining when someone words a response to you a little strongly? Really?

[OdinelStarrei]

Cant say I agree with this, if you truly believe in something you will put all of yourself on the line and be open to any scrutinization, by hiding behind an alt you have no real agenda and you are showing you are scared of actual criticism.

Im not here to doompost but hiding behind an alt will not help you agenda.

I'm going to be really honest and up front with you, and not in a confrontational way, just want to talk about my experience.

I am someone who is doing exactly what you are saying. I am also a player who has been pretty critical of mostly tanks, but also healers and some other miscellaneous things SE has done.

Because I have not made any attempts to hide who I am, I have had players send me tells ingame and on discord telling me to kill myself, and worse, because all I do is "criticize the developers".

I don't blame anyone for using alts or taking measures to avoid harassment. This community has proven that the more fanatical types will go after people no problem.

[Kathryn]

I'm going to be really honest and up front with you, and not in a confrontational way, just want to talk about my experience.

I someone who is doing exactly what you are saying. I am also a player who has been pretty critical of mostly tanks, but also healers and some other miscellaneous things SE has done.

Because I have not made any attempts to hide who I am, I have had players send me tells ingame and on discord telling me to kill myself, and worse, because all I do is "criticize the developers".

I don't blame anyone for using alts or taking measures to avoid harassment. This community has proven that the more fanatical types will go after people no problem.

I understand this can happen but document the messages with screenshots, blacklist the person and send it to SE these people will get their accounts banned and rightfully so.

[OdinelStarrei]

I understand this can happen but document the messages with screenshots, blacklist the person and send it to SE these people will get their accounts banned and rightfully so.

What do you think I've done? Me and the GMs are on good terms, I assure you. As for discord, well if it's coming from a new account with a newly created email address, there's not much you can do but refuse DMs from all people not on the friends list. Imagine having someone fishing and proding for your other online accounts simply because you weren't happy about the tank reworks, so you can get heckled off platform.

You've seen it. The insults, the joy people will take in deliberately aggravating other people, or going out of their way to misinterpret some pretty well established guidelines. We don't have moderators here to police inflammatory statements. We don't have community leaders who are going to advocate for us, because the "silent majority" will always be larger than us. We don't have frequent communications about the issues we really care about. And we are constantly surrounded by arguments, and accusations.

So, again. I don't blame anyone for not signing themselves up to be screwed with. It's really troubling after awhile. A nihilistic perspective is understandable.

[Rehayem]

I'm going to be really honest and up front with you, and not in a confrontational way, just want to talk about my experience.

I am someone who is doing exactly what you are saying. I am also a player who has been pretty critical of mostly tanks, but also healers and some other miscellaneous things SE has done.

Because I have not made any attempts to hide who I am, I have had players send me tells ingame and on discord telling me to kill myself, and worse, because all I do is "criticize the developers".

I don't blame anyone for using alts or taking measures to avoid harassment. This community has proven that the more fanatical types will go after people no problem.

Which is why I always laugh when people tell me "FFXIV has a great, positive community". No, it does not. It's toxic positivity at best, and it works like a hivemind many times. People are so enamored with the game, very few ever leave the honeymoon phase and will slander you for criticizing the game or the dev team. It's completely absurd.

SE nor the dev team cares about you, they just want your money, it's that simple. Had SE been a private company instead, then they wouldn't need to please shareholders.