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    Quote Originally Posted by Moonjava View Post
    Again, the actual state of healers in the game is irrelevant to my point. You're demanding SE spend a lot of money to make a lot of changes. Where is the evidence that those changes will generate a net increase in player satisfaction that is large enough to justify the cost? Absent that evidence, these demands are purely based on personal preference, and what gives your preference more weight than the opinions of players who are happy with healers as-is?
    The traction and awareness that this movement has caused is your evidence. Where was it previous to the changes the dev team already spent their money on demanding that healing be made into the monotonous, over-simplified snoozefest it is today? Do you think that all of this is restricted to these forums? It's everywhere now. Articles have been written, it's on social media, monetized content creators have made videos about it, even the supposed carefree casual playerbase within the game have talked about it, inside of duties. So when you say players are happy with healer as-is, I would say to that "all evidence to the contrary."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gemina View Post
    The traction and awareness that this movement has caused is your evidence. Where was it previous to the changes the dev team already spent their money on demanding that healing be made into the monotonous, over-simplified snoozefest it is today? Do you think that all of this is restricted to these forums? It's everywhere now. Articles have been written, it's on social media, monetized content creators have made videos about it, even the supposed carefree casual playerbase within the game have talked about, inside of duties. So when you players are happy with healer as-is, I would say to that "all evidence to the contrary."
    Sites that run ads and streamers/content creators have a financial incentive to cover drama and drama-adjacent content, as it generates more clicks and therefore more revenue, and this "movement" falls squarely into that category- it doesn't necessarily mean they support your stated cause. Moreover, people who are happy with the state of the game are vastly underrepresented here, as they have nothing to complain about and therefore no reason to be on the forums. Even for folks who are happy with the state of the game and would in theory like to state their support for the status quo, they'd have absolutely no reason to do so, especially not with how genuinely nasty and condescending some people are being in this thread. I've taken a peek at your Discord and saw there are about 230 people in there- not nothing, but even using FFXIVcensus.com's estimate of "endgame" characters only (~1.4m), it's not nearly enough to move the needle, even if you all "strike" for all of Dawntrail.

    I'll grant you that this thread has made something of a splash, but hard (or even just firm) evidence of huge swathes of players all asking for exactly the same changes, enough to offset the players who will inevitably be upset by those changes, still has yet to appear. (And that is another element of this- even if everyone who wants any kind of change to healers bands together and manages to get SE to do something, there's no guarantee you would all agree about what direction those changes should take, and so even some people who are currently in support of this movement may still end up unhappy even if your goals are met.)
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