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    Quote Originally Posted by aiqa View Post
    With a little practice you can easily avoid AoE's that apply Necrosis (the Doom like effect) at the first boss of Dead Ends. Not a good sign when the first expample too show why healers are only useless in some dungeons only applies when players mess up a mechanic. Sure when your team messes up often enough, they'll need a healer in any dungeon. This is the main problem with encounter design, most of the times healers could be useful can be completely avoided by gaining a little more experience with the encounter.
    This also means there may be an inverse relationship between expansion lifespan and healer being fun. As players get more experienced by repeating the newer content, you're going to see less mistakes theoretically.

    Still bad design imo, when mastering content just means more fun and more expression for certain roles.
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    Last edited by Turtledeluxe; 06-14-2024 at 07:47 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Turtledeluxe View Post
    This also means there may be an inverse relationship between expansion lifespan and healer being fun. As players get more experienced by repeating the newer content, you're going to see less mistakes theoretically.
    Yes, that is what happens with the current encounter design combined with ever stronger heals from other roles (mostly tanks). But the bar for that can be pretty low in dungeons. As seen in the video about the first DT dungeon without a healer, the players got many vulnerability stacks and the WAR didn't use team heals anything near optimal, and they still got through it without much difficulty.
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    Last edited by aiqa; 06-14-2024 at 07:55 PM. Reason: "with" should have been "without"

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    Quote Originally Posted by aiqa View Post
    Yes, that is what happens with the current encounter design combined with ever stronger heals from other roles (mostly tanks). But the bar for that can be pretty low in dungeons. As seen in the video about the first DT dungeon without a healer, the players got many vulnerability stacks and the WAR didn't use team heals anything near optimal, and they still got through it with much difficulty.
    True, it would only really apply to the amount of content that is fun for healers in the first place.
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