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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    And that’s the point of the strike, I don’t hate 14 I hate healers in 14

    So someone else can play these piles of garbage while I enjoy the rest of the game
    I relate to this a lot. I play healers in every game that has them, but i just loathe playing them in FF. I *want* to heal. But the gameplay is just not great.
    This feeling is creeping up on the tanks as well, after various questionable changes. But i'm affraid most tanks don't really seem to care so i know things won't change.
    I'm on copium for the promises made to change jobs in 7.2, so i can return to support gameplay. But not holding my breath to be honest. I'll likely just play melee dps for the full expansion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GoatOfWar View Post
    I relate to this a lot. I play healers in every game that has them, but i just loathe playing them in FF. I *want* to heal. But the gameplay is just not great.
    This feeling is creeping up on the tanks as well, after various questionable changes. But i'm affraid most tanks don't really seem to care so i know things won't change.
    I'm on copium for the promises made to change jobs in 7.2, so i can return to support gameplay. But not holding my breath to be honest. I'll likely just play melee dps for the full expansion.
    With the 7.2 deadline to start enacting partial changes for jobs in the Gamesradar interview being a mistranslation, there's no hopium left.
    It's probably another 2 years of the same old... tinfoil hat time, they added trusts expecting healers to slowly give up :>
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    I agree but that's not how everyone sees things.

    For many, perception is reality...

    ...I still think that an actual strike is not the correct approach to getting problems fixed. As one of the JP posters pointed out earlier, strikes are not seen favorably in Japan and it is Japanese developers that you have to convince to make changes.
    So is your disagreement just that calling it a "strike" is bad? Is that it? If so an alternative proposal shouldn't be hard though I'm not sure we even can change the name anymore now that it's out there.
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    Someone posted that giant wall of text about healer issues four years ago and it got looked at and answered in a Q&A with what essentially amounted to "We're working on it.", then it resulted in an awful lot of nothing in the present.

    It's hard to say what will properly get the point across if that didn't work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IDontPetLalas View Post
    So, if it's all going to amount to nothing, why are you so nervous? Just relax and enjoy the game, you clearly aren't concerned that it will affect you..
    I'm not nervous. I'm enjoying the circus show unfolding. I have nothing to be nervous about as it's no skin off my nose if by some miracle this 'did' work.
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    I don't need ya since I can run every DT dungeon with my NPC companions.
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    "The worst foe lies within the self."

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    Quote Originally Posted by DynnDiablos View Post
    snip snap
    Hey, thanks for the engagement! Keeping the thread going, keeping the metaphorical flames alive!
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    #FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE

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    Wait...all this thread for a 3 to 4 month old build, without seeing and playing things yourself and based on the first MSQ dungeon being completed by Ultimate raiders with no healer?

    Even in roulettes I need to heal or people die, not everyone plays well all the time. Yes dps rotation is simple but you weave heals throughout. If you just want to dps play a dps. I cant see the issue. Sorry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Giggle View Post
    Wait...all this thread for a 3 to 4 month old build, without seeing and playing things yourself and based on the first MSQ dungeon being completed by Ultimate raiders with no healer?

    Even in roulettes I need to heal or people die, not everyone plays well all the time. Yes dps rotation is simple but you weave heals throughout. If you just want to dps play a dps. I cant see the issue. Sorry.
    Because they said the same thing before the ShB release and the EW release

    The first dungeon in the expansion is nearly always the hardest and it’s been cleared BEFORE it even released and it barely requires any skill, the NIN in that clear had 4 vuln stacks before they finally died, why is a DPS surviving 4 vuln stacks before they die especially when they don’t have a healer to actually power heal them

    Weaving heals isn’t a substitute for something to do DPS wise because you need to press heals so infrequently, raidwide damage is healed by 1 oGCD, avoidable damage on a DPS is done by one heal, the outgoing damage comes out like every 45 seconds, the tank can cover most of the healing for itself and the DPS, there was like maybe 10 raid wides in that entire dungeon and the tank can just heal up both DPS before the next one comes out

    We just barely have a function anymore
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    As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.

    I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess

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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    Because they said the same thing before the ShB release and the EW release

    The first dungeon in the expansion is nearly always the hardest and it’s been cleared BEFORE it even released and it barely requires any skill, the NIN in that clear had 4 vuln stacks before they finally died, why is a DPS surviving 4 vuln stacks before they die especially when they don’t have a healer to actually power heal them

    Weaving heals isn’t a substitute for something to do DPS wise because you need to press heals so infrequently, raidwide damage is healed by 1 oGCD, avoidable damage on a DPS is done by one heal, the outgoing damage comes out like every 45 seconds, the tank can cover most of the healing for itself and the DPS

    We just barely have a function anymore
    In a game that makes every individual job increasingly self sufficient, and lowers the difficulty every other patch.. Yeah, everyone is basically just a dps.
    If you're going to play a dps regardless of the role, you might as well play one that has a semi engaging and rewarding rotation.
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