#FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE

[Supersnow845]

I'm just going to throw in my opinion as someone who's been healing since Stormblood. I think the point of the healers not being unique enough is fair, however, I have become more and more in love with healing, and Scholar, because of the more recent changes to the job and healing in general. Most of my examples will involve Scholar as it's the job I have the most experience with but I believe the general idea of my points can be applied to the other healing jobs.

I personally don't think much needs changing and if anything, fleshing out the identity of each job's unique aspects should be the direction. Adding more to spend the fairy gauge on, for example, like damage spells, buffs and more utility based abilities. I also wouldn't enjoy Scholar if things like Miasma and Shadow Flare were brought back, I think they are needless and bloat the job too much. I'd rather focus on managing my Fairy's CDs with the shielding than having to re-apply dots. Although, Shadow Flare's effect could be added to sacred soil to give it a dual purpose. I do want to add that I agree that the damage "rotation", if you can call it that, for healers is underwhelming and most of the time a little boring, but again, adding the damage aspect to the identity of the job would benefit it more than just adding more spells to cast. The idea of merging with your fairy to cast more powerful damaging spells is something that I was thinking of as a general suggestion

The stage we're at right now is one where healers would benefit from new ideas going deeper into identity rather than simply adding things just for the sake of it.

SCH’s lost so much of its identity we are at the point of people arguing we should lean more into its identity but doing exactly the opposite of what its actual identity is

And people say healers don’t have an identity crisis

I mean, content becoming more boring with repetition and optimization is true for all jobs. That's just a function of the fact that FFXIV fights are entirely scripted. I don't disagree that it's more of an issue on healer and doing DPS could be a bit more engaging, but insisting that healers are all boring and awful because long stretches of just doing DPS is boring is willfully ignoring, y'know, the whole "healing" thing. In my opinion, the fun of healing is in that mit plan creation and CD optimization you mentioned- that aspect of healing remains, it just unfortunately isn't all that applicable in normal content.

Yes I think it’s perfectly valid to say healers are awful because “HEALING” amounts to pressing sacred soil every 45 seconds between my constant broil casts, I’m not gonna minimise the monotony of that

[Moonjava]

Yes I think it’s perfectly valid to say healers are awful because “HEALING” amounts to pressing sacred soil every 45 seconds between my constant broil casts, I’m not gonna minimise the monotony of that

And now we circle back to "do harder content." If you're making it through ultimates by using Soil every 45 seconds and clicking Broil otherwise, I'd love to meet your cohealer.

[xbahax92]

Majority of the players struggle to keep 1 dot up now you expect them to do 2.

Many* players struggle using their full dps kit and tank mitigations and somehow those roles dont get stripped down. Odd.
Then again, it's difficult to nitpick here. I think, catering the healers to one audience, in this case casuals, hurts the overall gameplay.

[Emitans]

Majority of the players struggle to keep 1 dot up now you expect them to do 2.

Majority of players can't even keep their GCD rolling. Might as well remove GCDs and make the game about autoing.

[Krackzy]

TRUE AND REAL

[Supersnow845]

And now we circle back to "do harder content." If you're making it through ultimates by using Soil every 45 seconds and clicking Broil otherwise, I'd love to meet your cohealer.

Which circles back to the problem that a job shouldn’t only be semi decent in ultimate content

I’ve easily cleared savages with half my kit outhealing my cohealer, all I do is spam broil. My job shouldn’t only semi engage me in literally 5 fights in the entire game

There are ways to raise the skill ceiling in all content without raising the skill floor, the skill ceiling shouldn’t be in a different piece of content

[DivineP]

Hello my darlings,

I've been watching those thread so ill put my own 2 cents in.

As a healers main from ARR I've healed alot - I have lifer 3 and the Mentor mount for context.

In EW when warriors got so much self sustain, I couldn't even tell when to heal anymore. E.G how low do I let them go before bursting my heals etc. Bow that's a problem because i PUG alot so trying to keep up with all this sustain in a PUG is a problem.

I have idea what I can or can't do. And as mentioned ina PUG with random am I suppose to know if they can do their rotation properly and heal themselves or do I just dps away and they die?

Silly move by CBU3 cause I'm switching to DPS in DT because I can't keep up with all this silly mitigation stuff.

[Rein_eon_Osborne]

Majority of players can't even keep their GCD rolling. Might as well remove GCDs and make the game about autoing.

7.2 change: all healers will execute Assize automatically every GCD.

Please look forward to it.

[ty_taurus]

Nobody is asking for complex dps rotations, though. I'm pretty sure even an Aero III dot would change healer downtime by a bit. You'd get to check 2 dots with different timers, while keeping everyone alive.
It worked before in Stormblood, why should it not now?

The maximum that I would like to see would be if specifically Sage’s DPS complexity were comparable to Gunbreaker’s, which to be fair really isn’t a lot. To be clear (because I have to be abundantly direct about these things or someone will inevitably come for my throat), I do not mean “give Sage Gunbreaker’s rotation”. I would just be interested in its rotation to be of comparable complexity to Gunbreaker’s. And I say this for Sage because that is a part of how it was originally described—as a DPS oriented healer. I would not ask the same of the other healers. They should approach things differently.

[Emitans]

7.2 change: all healers will execute Assize automatically every GCD.

Please look forward to it.

Really looking forward to trying that in Deep Dungeon