#FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE

[ty_taurus]

Agreed completely.

Unfortunately, this thread has had problems from the start. From the first day it has featured exaggerations, booming echo-chamber "us vs them" tribalism, countless alts spamming upvotes or posting for the first time ever to give the appearance of mass appeal, rampant hostility toward anyone expressing any disagreement, even hostility towards curious people just asking questions to understand what was happening or what the aims were. . .

I too asked a basic question a few days ago and someone bit my head off about it while lumping me in as essentially "the enemy" or a troll without even checking my post history nor even bothering to ask for my own feelings on the actual healing issue.

It's been mob mentality in here, and such attracts more hatred and derision, taking attention away from the topic itself and placing it instead on the sheer rudeness and bile that is coming out of this thread. Now we've even reached the point where posters are espousing ethnocentrism and anti-Asian stereotypes, which is shameful.

Why should any independent thinker wish to associated with this at this point, given what it and this thread quickly devolved into, despite perhaps agreeing wholeheartedly with the actual issue: healer gameplay. Is it worth the appearance of tying oneself to hostile racists, trolls, and lunatics? Because that's how an observer of this thread will see it. If anything, this may well end with causing more damage to the likelihood of legitimate concerns being addressed.

See, I feel the opposite. I feel like most of the time when someone disagrees, they come in and are immediately rude and disrespectful about it. Not everyone, but an alarmingly high amount of people and are intentionally very antagonistic. Perhaps the experience you're talking about is you got swept away in that because there was already tension in the air. I won't justify that if that's the case, because that's not right either.

I don't know what confrontation you're referring to, so I would initially want to see what is it that you said originally. Was it actually more antagonistic than you thought it was? Is there any reason someone might take it as confrontational? Who responded to you? Does their response seem justified, or are they overreacting and/or being hateful about it? Is their response "biting your head off" or not? I'm not suggesting that you're lying about it. I'm just saying I haven't seen the conflict, so I can't really speak to what I think happened.

As someone who's been trying to give feedback since before Shadowbringers, it's tiring, and I constantly feel like people who don't see the issues I do are constantly against me. Now, coming into a space like this where a lot of people are barging in guns blazing, I can understand why it's difficult to be patient with disagreements, and I can see how if there are innocent disagreements, how those could get lashed out at unintentionally.

I would just like to see more consistent civility here on both sides, but if there's someone who comes in, weapons drawn, there will naturally be backlash to it.

[NanaWiloh]

This game is suffering from its own version of the FF6 end game syndrome. This is a case where challenge plateaus and starts to decline as you slowly become a nearly or completely untouchable living god.

[Oizen]

what if we just nerfed bloodwhetting lol

[nekomir]

what if we just nerfed bloodwhetting lol

pld will simply replace war's position, at least on normal dungeons
you don't even need to use clemency with 1t3d

(of course early dungeons in ew is... likely harder to do without it, but eh)

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Which ones? FFXIV JP forums or JP Chan forums?

The former is as bad as r/ffxiv and should be ignored.

do not worry most of us even outside jp forums will think english people are very funny people, its just usual (half /s)

[MisterNublet]

pld will simply replace war's position, at least on normal dungeons
you don't even need to use clemency with 1t3d

(of course early dungeons in ew is... likely harder to do without it, but eh)



do not worry most of us even outside jp forums will think english people are very funny people, its just usual (half /s)

English people are indeed funny people. I tend to find it more intriguing to see how JP truly feels when they use their anonymous platforms to express themselves and their thoughts.

[JanineBeckinsale]

what if we just nerfed bloodwhetting lol

Wait until someone realize how much self-sustain & mit a lv90 PLD has

[Galvuu]

Wait until someone realize how much self-sustain & mit a lv90 PLD has

It's a transversal problem to the role.
Honestly, to the game. XIV is becoming obsessed with removing job fail states, and fail states in "casual" content, and then slamming a myriad of body checks and instant wipes in high-end content (Hello Near/Far World instantly exploding instead of just giving you DD that forces enrage so you can at least practice the phase is downright criminal design, imho).
This all compounds to reduce the impact healers have. In A6S you could literally save pulls on Brawler if your party messed the orbs up as SCH/WHM if you were on top of your healing...

[Kazmarek]

Yeah paladin and warrior have absolutely 0 issue staying alive in mob pulls, which mean they have 0 issue staying alive in bosses. Gunbreaker's a little harder to self heal through mob pulls, but with a bit of luck and good enough dps, it's doable. When it comes to staying alive in bosses, again, gunbreaker's a little harder to do so... but only a little. I remember playing gunbreaker in the grand cosmos, final boss. The healer and both dps die and the boss still has a good chunk of health left, probably about 40 or 50%. It was difficult, it was tedious, but I brought the boss all the way down and kept myself decently healthy the entire time. So dark knight's definitely the least survivable tank but I'm sure with the right people it, too, could replicate what the other 3 can do.

[rawker]

Wait until someone realize how much self-sustain & mit a lv90 PLD has

I agree to this.. They could have simply removed all the passive healing from the spells and instead of regen attached to Holy Sheltron, it should have been given the Convalescence effect so we're are forced to use Clemency on ourselves, when doing solo content or to help the healer topping us off

[WeakestZenosEnjoyer]

I do feel like Astrologian is rather busy compared to other healers. It feels like it has all sorts of attacks, cards to manage, and doing all of that keeps me busy tbh. Comparatively, I sleep when playing as a Scholar.

Hey bad news, Astrologian now plays two cards every two minutes with no redraws and no astrodyne, should be able to single weave the whole burst.