Helare shortage in PF: what would bring you back?

[Renathras]

Flaming, Bashing, Abuse

See?

Have you literally ever considered apologizing for making a post that I considered as threatening?

I have.

Given your posts, I deemed that you would not accept such an apology and would attack me and use it as "proof" of my toxicity from then on. Some people do that. If someone tries "to be the bigger man", then the other person uses it over and over in the future as a "Now now, we've already established you were a bad person, you even admitted it in that apology you made..."

Not only that, I did: Remember where I said we might have gotten off on the wrong foot, have misunderstood each other, and should try to start over as friends? I didn't demand an apology from you and offered it freely.

Remember what you did when I offered a hand in friendship with no terms or requirements of you?

You reported me.

And look at the rest of your post. You're literally attacking me for everything you've done to me - you ranting, you bashing, you insulting me, you victim blaming me for calling out what I consider abusive rhetoric from you, and just engaging in pure flaming with NO cohesive arguments. I made arguments in my posts. You leveraged insults. I pointed out that maybe some people still prefer the older styles of healing. You attacked that as Sylphie, coddling, lazy, and braindead. The worst part is, you aren't even looking at my arguments that you call "barely...cohesive" as I've consistently argued FOR healers to have things to do in downtime, but not for those things to always be damage related. Your "recommendations" were often in the form of trying to force me to quit FFXIV, which is hardly kind or friendly, and you've never apologized for it. I've pointed out my personal experience, that DPS focused healer people can be toxic - hell, look at your replies to me, which have mostly been toxic - and you did this even as I have consistently argued for three out of our four FFXIV healers to be designed to your preferences!, and I've corrected you, many times, on misrepresenting my arguments. Even now you can't help but misrepresent my posts as "wall of text".

I'd ask you to look at your wall of text and then ask yourself what button you would click on such a post, but knowing you, you'd like every one of your posts. But that's not too surprising nor an insult, honestly - most people would like the content of their own posts, as why would they be making posts they personally highly disagree with? It's a weird statement to even ask of someone...

I'd even apologize right now and offer a hand in friendship if you'd apologize to me as well and never try using it as yet another cudgel, something I can't be sure of since even me using capital letters of even silence on my part you consider something to attack me over. Seriously, that long post in that other thread where you insist I was "bashing" you? That was me begging and pleading with you for an answer to what we can do to stop this, because this is beyond tiring and frustrating. And I can't imagine anyone else here really enjoys your constant digging at me and me feeling the need to defend myself - you've outright accused me of being an abuser. Am I just supposed to let that stand?

Sad thing is, it would end if ANYONE else here would call you out on it, since I'm more than amenable to not engaging in any more of it. They just agree with your general position, so they won't attack one of their own, even if it would be better for everyone.

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But yes: If it would stop this incessant dogpiling and tit-for-tat and derailing of EVERY. SINGLE. THREAD. in this forum, I'd absolutely apologize to you if you'd apologize to me and we could come together on the common ground of not wanting to continue in hostilities. A thing I asked you (without any precondition of apologies) to do once before and you rejected.

In fact, skip the apologies, I'll ask it again:

How about an armistice? Peace? Right here right now, no conditions. I offer that to you freely. Will you accept it?

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I mean I’m not trying to bully you, I’m saying that every thread about healers as soon as you or one or two other come in every post becomes a huge wall of text where nothing much is said outside of people just arguing with each other as you specifically try to answer 15 different people at once in a (not very concise way)

These people aren’t bullying you (outside of a few notable exceptions) you just don’t have a very popular opinion but your insistence on responding to every single person who ever replies to a healer thread makes it seem like the majority is against you which puts you on the defensive

About 3-4 people are bullying me.

The rest disagree on some things, and we've actually been having good conversations as rational people.