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    Thi's Avatar
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    Thi L'iun
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saranade View Post
    A huge NOPE: "Indeed, we’ve only released duties that we have proven can be beaten with the game’s standard features." - Yoshi P.
    Everything that has been released can be beaten with the games standard features is a true statement.

    The content isn't the problem, it's the players. People want tools to filter out the players who do not match the standard competency required to clear the content.

    Tools or no tools, a party of bad players are not going to clear Savage let alone an Extreme.
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    Last edited by Thi; 05-18-2022 at 05:57 AM.

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    Ymir Bombullshale
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thi View Post
    Everything that has been released can be beaten with the games standard features is a true statement.

    The content isn't the problem, it's the players. People want tools to filter out the players who do not match the standard competency required to clear the content.

    Tools or no tools, a party of bad players are not going to clear Savage let alone an Extreme.
    In that case, no, you're never getting those tools. The developers have said the answer is no and will always be no, no matter how many times you ask.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VerdeLuck View Post
    The developers have said the answer is no and will always be no, no matter how many times you ask.
    Said the male Viera.
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    Klytania Moanmoore
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    Quote Originally Posted by MintnHoney View Post
    Said the male Viera.
    "That's impossible"
    >implements feature
    "This will be difficult don't expect it"
    >implements feature
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    Ronduwil Thaliakson
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    Quote Originally Posted by Klytania View Post
    "That's impossible"
    >implements feature
    "This will be difficult don't expect it"
    >implements feature
    Except none of that has been said with regard to damage meters. The limitation is not technical or time-constrained. It's purely philosophical. Yoshi-P feels that games should be sociable and enjoyable. A portion of the community wants to treat their game like a job with efficiency goals, performance bonuses, layoffs, and the elimination of underperformers through attrition. That only makes sense in an environment where the goal is to maximize productivity. It makes no sense in a pay-to-play subscription-based game. I'm sad that this has to be repeated so frequently in this day and age. Content is designed to be easy because succeeding at it is fun for most players. The masochists who think that content is only fun when you had to spend weeks beating your head against a single boss before finally being able to beat it are in the minority. Basically, bosses are going to remain easy for the same reason that buying a losing lottery ticket at the gold saucer is still paying out at 5-1. Players like to win, and since SE wants them to continue playing, they give the players what they want.
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    Burning Winter
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronduwil View Post
    Except none of that has been said with regard to damage meters. The limitation is not technical or time-constrained. It's purely philosophical. Yoshi-P feels that games should be sociable and enjoyable. A portion of the community wants to treat their game like a job with efficiency goals, performance bonuses, layoffs, and the elimination of underperformers through attrition. That only makes sense in an environment where the goal is to maximize productivity. It makes no sense in a pay-to-play subscription-based game. I'm sad that this has to be repeated so frequently in this day and age. Content is designed to be easy because succeeding at it is fun for most players. The masochists who think that content is only fun when you had to spend weeks beating your head against a single boss before finally being able to beat it are in the minority. Basically, bosses are going to remain easy for the same reason that buying a losing lottery ticket at the gold saucer is still paying out at 5-1. Players like to win, and since SE wants them to continue playing, they give the players what they want.
    Fun is subjective.
    What's not fun for you, could be fun for others. People have different interests in games, surprise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronduwil View Post
    Except none of that has been said with regard to damage meters. The limitation is not technical or time-constrained. It's purely philosophical...
    Like with the UI functions that he wants to update, because the community has been asking for them and he believes that there's a place for them.

    Players like to win, and since SE wants them to continue playing, they give the players what they want.
    And adding in a sort of damage meter "with caveats" could be another optional implement to achieve that. It's not as if the ability to report someone for harassment would go away because of the inclusion of a new feature (unless spaghetti code, but then how could anyone account for that other than the devs). Would people have to deal with individuals filtering other players out in the PF? Yes, but they already have to deal with that now, so that wouldn't change.

    Quote Originally Posted by DPZ2 View Post
    The producer of the game says "no". That is all the argument that is required.
    YoshiP says a lot of things, first of all. There are many examples where the things he has said has turned out to be untrue, or something in development changes.
    Secondly, YoshiP can also change his mind about things, given enough support and a reasonable way to achieve said things. It certainly doesn't require the purchase of an entire company to consider something, but I invite you to wait anyway. I'm sure there's a corner, somewhere, where you can do the Superiority Shuffle by yourself while people have conversations here.
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    Last edited by MintnHoney; 05-18-2022 at 07:06 AM.

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    Nia Niyah
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    Quote Originally Posted by VerdeLuck View Post
    In that case, no, you're never getting those tools. The developers have said the answer is no and will always be no, no matter how many times you ask.
    My brother in Hydaelyn you are literally playing a race that they said would never happen
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    Alarasong Elaha
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reimmi View Post
    My brother in Hydaelyn you are literally playing a race that they said would never happen
    Don't forget how they said no it's impossible for collection checkmarks on orchestration rolls and minions, and then added it!
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    Tani Shirai
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rolder50 View Post
    Don't forget how they said no it's impossible for collection checkmarks on orchestration rolls and minions, and then added it!
    Glamours in PvP? Forever and always an impossibility.
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