It's time (Option to Hide other players Glamour)

[Awha]

I just wish those who want the glam removal be actually clear about what they want it to be. They keep rattling on about why they want it, but not much thought seems to be given how they want it to appear. So many times when I bring up how harassment can happen from players wearing revealing gear when it isn't their choice, I'm simply told "that's unlikely!" and then no comment made about the compromise to have glam removal default to modest clothing. Just told about how "this feature shouldn't be forbidden because of an unlikely event" even though I literally explained a scenario that would allow the feature AND reduce the chances of clothing based harassment!

It frankly gives the impression that they're so caught up in removing glams that they don't care about the ramifications that option could have if it is not introduced with care, and that when anyone points out to any potential problems they obviously must be completely against it in any form even if they suggest a way to do it.

I am unfortunate enough to know the sort of things that can happen when players do not have much control over the gear they wear. I have seen ugly situations and experienced some of them myself. I thought I left that crap behind when transmog/glam came to WoW, but here I am thinking about it again because some people want to remove glams but refuse to think about how such a thing could affect someone else if it is introduced in certain ways.

If glam removal comes to the game, and the gear simply gets defaulted to racial, AF or unglammed combat gear I'll definitely be spending a lot less time in cities. If players who use glam removal, that default to the aforementioned gear, have a visual tag (like others suggested, not me) you can bet your life I would be standing as far away from them as possible.

I just want players to be safe from harassment that can come from a lack of control over how their characters appear. Why is this such a bad thing?

It is not a bad thing it does suck, and in my case I am not that great at covaying my thoughts, but I tried myself early on to put what I would like to the feature to do, my gear choice would be the basic robe but I get what gear SE uses would be a difficult choice and creates a bunch of issues. I get it can be an emotional topic I know from a personal level being a player that has gotten someone to nearly leave a game because I made a joke about their character. I get that real people are behind the screen, but my brain has a hard time seeing that so thus I do not see a character as an extension of one self, in my eyes it is more like a forum icon.

It was not my intention to ever come off if I did as someone that makes it feel like it is wrong to combat harassment, I may not see it as harassment, or even care or be apologetic--refering the person in the past I made feel bad because I made a joke about their characer--but I do respect and I understand how one could see it as such. My lack of empathy is not a lack of understanding.

This is very difficult to pare down when the conversation keeps getting derailed to how immoral and bigoted the supporters are. Not an accusation against you personally but an observation of the patterns in this thread.

I have tried to solidify some sort of at least compromise and so far have come to the solution that at best it would automatically use set (modest) gear for each class/job (possibly tiered like squadron base gear) and randomized customization values but keep race and sex. That way all game mechanical information would be preserved while anonymizing the character and preserving "modesty". Also it'd have to be an all besides player and NPC toggle so as to not single out any particular player AND maybe add on a hard lock to first initial names or party numbers displayed only , NOT full names so as to keep with anonymity for screen shots.

I did ask a simular question many pages ago but things get blurred, that if people would be annoyed if the option made it so everyone was in say a [insert whatever disred gear here] and said feature also enabled the first letter of the character name would they be against it? Since at that point it would be harder to pin down, not impossile I am sure. More so was wondering if that would be a large enough disconnect between one self and the character that point where one would feel more comfortable.