It's time (Option to Hide other players Glamour)

[Granyala]

His point isn't at all unreasonable. Especially since, in a work environment, a degree of professionalism is required. The degree varies, though a guy in a frog costume would be extremely distracting in pretty much any job outside of some very niche situations like working as a mascot.

I realise that a lot of people playing this game may not necessarily be familiar with the working world and etiquette associated with it though, so I can understand the confusion to a degree.

Psychologically speaking, a dude showing up in a frog costume would only be an initial distraction. Once you've seen him a few days in his ridiculous outfit, your brain gets accustomed to the quirk and it would be the new norm for that person.

I'm sure, me working at an elementary school wearing nothing but black also raised a few eyebrows. Now, nobody gives a hoot.

Ooor have you ever lightly touched what we Germans call the FKK-scene?

Oh yes, we have a "Freie KörperKultur" beach here. (Nudist beach for the non Germans)
Nightmare stuff, let me tell you. Makes me happy I have a visus of -6dpt.... I can just take off my glasses while traversing it.

Battle effects (eye strain) can be classified as an aesthetic issue, you can change it.

Actually, the main issue is visibility not aesthetics.
With all effects on full, you can often not see the boss.
So mechanics that depend on whether the boss scratches his left buttcheek or or slaps his right become a nightmare to sort out.

Main reason my client runs on "simple" for all except myself.

Aesthetics would be "I don't like the color of your holy, I'll change it."

Still, the spellSFX aren't user generated, so you are comparing apples to oranges.

[Theodric]

Psychologically speaking, a dude showing up in a frog costume would only be an initial distraction. Once you've seen him a few days in his ridiculous outfit, your brain gets accustomed to the quirk and it would be the new norm for that person.

Not necessarily, since it isn't an appropriate outfit for many different reasons in quite a few places of work. Even putting aside jobs where specific attire is required for health and safety reasons, it wouldn't be highly inappropriate for a lawyer to show up to a courtroom in a frog costume...and that's just one of many countless examples.

Then, of course, there's places that have a strict dress code - such as high end restaurants - because they very much want to establish and cultivate a certain aesthetic for their staff and customers.

To use an in-game example, if a player opted to invite people to their wedding and they wished to take screenshots of themselves, their partner and all the guests together then they would be well within their right to remove someone if they refused to change out of a frog costume.

So long as people aren't hostile about it, they can technically remove someone from a group for any reason they so please. Various filters to 'exclude' other players already exist and so another toggle, which is only client side, is just another option at the end of the day.

I just think it'd be nice to have more options in general, so that more players can tweak the game to their liking and personal tastes. That goes both ways.

[SamRF]

It's funny how we've come to the point we need to argue whether or not it's okay to show up in a frog costume at work.

[Granyala]

it wouldn't be highly inappropriate for a lawyer to show up to a courtroom in a frog costume...

And absolutely hilarious.

You're right of course, I was merely talking about the effect that our brains can get used to pretty much any pattern, if we let it.
I know that frog costumes are about as feasible in most jobs as in dungeons. I didn't want to dispute that fact. ^^

[Lambdafish]

It's funny how we've come to the point we need to argue whether or not it's okay to show up in a frog costume at work.

Some people think their own perceived rights are more important than common sense.

[Crushnight]

It's funny how we've come to the point we need to argue whether or not it's okay to show up in a frog costume at work.

The only way that rl example can work is if the work place had an anything goes when it came to dress code which just doesn't happen outside working from home.

[Dfess]

I'll agree with this. I dont mind seeing people in string bikinis but sometimes I wish people would take the theme and aesthetic more seriously.

[Bright-Flower]

Sure but an adventurer isn't a lawyer, an adventurer isn't adhering to a dress code, especially when glamour exists in the story. And by the time you're slaying primals at level 20, nobody's going to kick you out because you show up in a frog suit.

Like with the wedding example, you can cut out people sure for that event if you want to. And you can also votekick people with silly outfits if you want to.

[Fland]

I agree that you can't really compare FFXIV environment with actual real life office environment.
Why even you guys arguing about this lol?

BTW can we go back to discussing how this actually going to be implemented and it's effect on performance etc?

[Kohl]

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Several comments throughout this thread have been more in favor of a discrete option to discriminate glamours rather than one that simply deactivated the glamour feature client side. That is what I was addressing, and the OP is a heavy user of the glamour system, so it is not unreasonable to read that it is implicit in the OP's remarks that they mean to have the ability to individually censor glamours.

There isn't a reason to implement this filter that stands up to logic and scrutiny. No one can tell me why they want it other than because they are offended; which is just a feeling.

Implementing such a feature is contrary to the direction developers want to go, as is implicit in by Yoshi's remarks while talking about removal if gender restrictions on gear, quoted here:

"... I was heading to the office on a Saturday and I saw a situation that made me very sad. I was trying to go into the office and I was waiting at a red light. I saw a high schooler coming from the other side of the road in their school uniform. It seemed that they were biologically male at birth but they were wearing a sailor fuku, which is traditionally female attire. In Japanese high schools, there’s more and more schools that are accommodating for freedom of not being restricted to a specific gender for your uniform...That person probably wanted to present the gender they identified with in their heart...On the other side of the road was a mother and a daughter. The daughter was perhaps 5 years old. As soon as the mother saw the high schooler, she shielded her daughter as if she didn’t want her daughter to see. The high schooler must have been very hurt. Situations like these still happen and there’s areas where there’s not as much understanding.

We need to see more change in the values people have, and we need to consider for Final Fantasy XIV how we push forward in-game and how we represent it."
-Naoki Yoshida (interviewed by Heather Alexandra)

Some of these arguments are like those Magic Eye posters from the 90's... hard to see at first, but once they are in focus you can't unsee them.