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    Quote Originally Posted by Penthea View Post
    I feel like giving up debating with you. You won't budge, not even a tiny bit to say that glam removal should not permit players to see skin they otherwise could not. You want glam removal so much you don't even want to think of a way to introduce it that minimises the abuse that can come from displaying characters in skimpy gear they chose to cover, because that would mean admitting it's not the wholly innocent option it may seem to be.

    I have thought up of a compromise; that I would be able to tolerate glam removal if it put players into modest outfits. And your reaction to this is to basically say getting harassed over gear is some form of lottery. You obviously just don't give a toss.

    The forums are depressing sometimes.
    Many of the posts have blurred together have have anyone for the idea said that they strictly want to able to put people in "reveling" clothing? Ideas have been thrown around, but if it is working towards a tolerable idea as I said I would just want to put people in some standard gear set, be it a black robe, AF gear idk. Personally I like the black robe idea, but I think of most people as NPC's when I see them in cutscenes crazy glam or not.

    Quote Originally Posted by Packetdancer View Post
    So when I was speaking earlier in the thread about a feature that strips away identity in the game not coming across well in the press, that's what I meant. SquareEnix could have the best intentions in the world by creating the feature, but if the perception isn't good, it's still negative PR. And I do not personally see a way in which any implementation of a 'remove glamour' feature effectively giving you a button to push to remove all dark-skinned characters from the world—even if that was not the intention—could turn out well in public perception.
    This cocern is 100% valid, but maybe I am just naive I do not see why that should be an SE issues, that seems like a personal perception issue peoplw have and an issue with how news is delivered to begin with. The media likes to fearmonger I get it, but I do not think it is right to turn down an idea that could benefit the community by giving more control over their experience because people suck so to speak.

    I have thought about the PR issues, even going back to the press SE has gotten because of player ran brothels, and honestly that is one the reasons why I came into with the view this would never happen, but the conversation is meaningful because the interesting aspect that I see a lot of the blacklash for the idea has less to do with the feature, and more so with how people would use said feature. Seems like a akin to blaming the tool over the person.
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    Last edited by Awha; 03-07-2020 at 07:34 AM.