It's time (Option to Hide other players Glamour)

[MelodyCrystel]

Easy solution for this matter is answering a simple question:

Do you have in RL the courage to approach a stranger on the street and tell them "Please, get dressed properly, because I can't stand your current outfit." (or something similar matching your personality)?

For all the brave souls responding with "Yes!", I'd say you deserve the option to turn off glamour on other players.

For those who don't have the courage, though...
You cannot click your fingers and magically make a horrible outfit of another person disappear in RL, so why should you have that ability in a game, when you're unable to even ask another human being in front of you to do something about their look?

In general, from my own perspective, the thing about glamour is how you express yourself - same goes for clothes in RL, thus I don't find it really fair to ignore other people's efforts just because some players let their characters wear questionable outfits. I for one see thousands of beautiful glamours, while only crossing paths with very bad ideas once or twice a month, which is why I wouldn't use that option even if it existed. -.-

Also, for everybody who'd like to have the option:
You DO realize, that people wear sometimes stuff that isn't entirely the same set, yes? Miss-matched outfits would be something you'd often have to see when turning off glamour; ergo, that'll be something you better shouldn't complain about. But in case staying tame would be no problem for you, I hope SE hears your wish and implements it in the future. =U.U=

[Ivellior]

Easy solution for this matter is answering a simple question:

Do you have in RL the courage to approach a stranger on the street and tell them "Please, get dressed properly, because I can't stand your current outfit." (or something similar matching your personality)?

For all the brave souls responding with "Yes!", I'd say you deserve the option to turn off glamour on other players.

For those who don't have the courage, though...
You cannot click your fingers and magically make a horrible outfit of another person disappear in RL, so why should you have that ability in a game, when you're unable to even ask another human being in front of you to do something about their look?

That argument makes no sense. Real life does not correlate with the game on 1 to 1 basis. You don't see people walking in their underwear/swimsuits in a city in real life. So if you have the courage to walk in the middle of city with your underwear/swimsuit on you deserve to ask for the people to not ask for this feature.

In general, from my own perspective, the thing about glamour is how you express yourself - same goes for clothes in RL, thus I don't find it really fair to ignore other people's efforts just because some players let their characters wear questionable outfits. I for one see thousands of beautiful glamours, while only crossing paths with very bad ideas once or twice a month, which is why I wouldn't use that option even if it existed. -.-

Also, for everybody who'd like to have the option:
You DO realize, that people wear sometimes stuff that isn't entirely the same set, yes? Miss-matched outfits would be something you'd often have to see when turning off glamour; ergo, that'll be something you better shouldn't complain about. But in case staying tame would be no problem for you, I hope SE hears your wish and implements it in the future. =U.U=

Why does everyone ignore the point that it's entirely optional? If I turn off battle animations the game looks bad. It's worse than a mismatched outfit, but noone has a problem with the feature existing? Why does having the option to turn off glamour rile people so much?

[Fayt1203]

Why does everyone ignore the point that it's entirely optional? If I turn off battle animations the game looks bad. It's worse than a mismatched outfit, but noone has a problem with the feature existing? Why does having the option to turn off glamour rile people so much?

Because people are not arguing about the optional part they are voicing their disapproval of the feature it self.

also just want to put it out here since some people keep saying my screen my screen we all scream for ice cream?. we really don't have much off a choice of the matter what we see on the screen if we are playing some games. its is the developer of the game that has the say what we can see and what we cant see on the screen. and yes many games allow mods to change what we see but some don't. Asking for more feature is good nothing wrong with that but its also nothing wrong with voicing their disapproval of said feature.

[Ivellior]

Because people are not arguing about the optional part they are voicing their disapproval of the feature it self.

also just want to put it out here since some people keep saying my screen my screen we all scream for ice cream?. we really don't have much off a choice of the matter what we see on the screen if we are playing some games. its is the developer of the game that has the say what we can see and what we cant see on the screen. and yes many games allow mods to change what we see but some don't. Asking for more feature is good nothing wrong with that but its also nothing wrong with voicing their disapproval of said feature.

I didn't phrase that properly. I don't mind people disapproving a feature. They could just post and say I don't like it. Problem solved.

My problem lies with the fact that a lot of people are arguing that they don't want the feature because it will affect their client (for example say outfits will be mismatched or look ugly) when in really it doesn't affect them any in way (unless they use the aforementioned feature).

[MelodyCrystel]

That argument makes no sense. Real life does not correlate with the game on 1 to 1 basis. You don't see people walking in their underwear/swimsuits in a city in real life. So if you have the courage to walk in the middle of city with your underwear/swimsuit on you deserve to ask for the people to not ask for this feature.



Why does everyone ignore the point that it's entirely optional? If I turn off battle animations the game looks bad. It's worse than a mismatched outfit, but noone has a problem with the feature existing? Why does having the option to turn off glamour rile people so much?

A) The RL-argument HAS a point as you deal with REAL people while playing a MMO. Other characters running around as the WoL in FFXIV are no NPCs (apart from bots) but have existing persons behind them. Or do you treat other users on the forum here as if they wouldn't possess real human minds?

Plus, have you ever entered cities with some specific cultures? Or accidentally waltzed into a meeting of Punk- or Goth-fans? Ooor have you ever lightly touched what we Germans call the FKK-scene? In RL, you can also stumble about outfits that make you feel uncomfortable in case you don't share the other's likings. -.-

B) Wow, you entirely ignore what exactly I was saying. 'Yay', just don't care that I encourage people who wish for the turn-off-option as long as they don't complain about miss-matched-gear-sets. It's so much easier to solely see the criticism-aspect, no?

[Ivellior]

A) The RL-argument HAS a point as you deal with REAL people while playing a MMO. Other characters running around as the WoL in FFXIV are no NPCs (apart from bots) but have existing persons behind them. Or do you treat other users on the forum here as if they wouldn't possess real human minds?

I really fail to understand the argument. I mean you deal with people all the time in the game. So? It' a request of a QoL (Quality of Life) feature. Just like the battle effects filter, the profanity filter etc. What does that have to do with people? If I change the color of the names for people in my friends group does that mean I somehow don't treat them as humans? It's not like the turning the glamour off makes them disappear. It doesn't block them from interacting with me or the enviroment, it doesn't affect them or they game in any way. It just makes their gear return to their default look. What exactly is the problem is that?

Using the same logic, if I put someone on my black list because he was spamming on a channel does that mean I am dehumanizing them? Sure I can't do that in RL, it's a QoL feature that the game provides me to make my experience better. Just like toggling off other people's battle effect I wish to toggle off their glamour. I really fail to understand your argument.

Plus, have you ever entered cities with some specific cultures? Or accidentally waltzed into a meeting of Punk- or Goth-fans? Ooor have you ever lightly touched what we Germans call the FKK-scene? In RL, you can also stumble about outfits that make you feel uncomfortable in case you don't share the other's likings. -.-

Yes, these things exist. I can go out and night with my friends, get drunk and have someone throw up on me. That is uncofortable to say the least.... But what does that have to do with asking for a feature?
I turn off other people's battle effects because I find them too grating for my eyes (and for some classes I even turn off even my own battle effects). It's a feature the game provides me to make my experience better. It's uncorfortable for me and the game allows me to turn them off making me enjoy the game more. It doesn't affect anyone.
I want the same thing for glamours. Why is that a problem? It's not like I'm robbing you or something...

B) Wow, you entirely ignore what exactly I was saying. 'Yay', just don't care that I encourage people who wish for the turn-off-option as long as they don't complain about miss-matched-gear-sets. It's so much easier to solely see the criticism-aspect, no?

If that is the case, then I misunderstood and I apologize for it.

[SamRF]

Easy solution for this matter is answering a simple question:

Do you have in RL the courage to approach a stranger on the street and tell them "Please, get dressed properly, because I can't stand your current outfit." (or something similar matching your personality)?

For all the brave souls responding with "Yes!", I'd say you deserve the option to turn off glamour on other players.

For those who don't have the courage, though...
You cannot click your fingers and magically make a horrible outfit of another person disappear in RL, so why should you have that ability in a game, when you're unable to even ask another human being in front of you to do something about their look?

In general, from my own perspective, the thing about glamour is how you express yourself - same goes for clothes in RL, thus I don't find it really fair to ignore other people's efforts just because some players let their characters wear questionable outfits. I for one see thousands of beautiful glamours, while only crossing paths with very bad ideas once or twice a month, which is why I wouldn't use that option even if it existed. -.-

Also, for everybody who'd like to have the option:
You DO realize, that people wear sometimes stuff that isn't entirely the same set, yes? Miss-matched outfits would be something you'd often have to see when turning off glamour; ergo, that'll be something you better shouldn't complain about. But in case staying tame would be no problem for you, I hope SE hears your wish and implements it in the future. =U.U=

If I was about to do a group activity for work and one of my coworkers shows up wearing a creepy frog costume, I will definitely make a remark and ask them to wear something less distracting.

[Kobalos]

If I was about to do a group activity for work and one of my coworkers shows up wearing a creepy frog costume, I will definitely make a remark and ask them to wear something less distracting.

But is isn't work is it its a video game. I'm generally too focused on healing or following mechanics to bother myself over what folks dress their characters in. I still fail to see what OP's issue is. Its a game, the characters and outfits are not real. As for being immersion breaking this is a game that has cat girls, flying motorcycles and talking fish people, don't think a roe or viera in a pair of small is really that put place.

That being said I do think folks on both sides of the argument are making a mountain out of a molehill

[SamRF]

But is isn't work is it its a video game. I'm generally too focused on healing or following mechanics to bother myself over what folks dress their characters in. I still fail to see what OP's issue is. Its a game, the characters and outfits are not real. As for being immersion breaking this is a game that has cat girls, flying motorcycles and talking fish people, don't think a roe or viera in a pair of small is really that put place.

That being said I do think folks on both sides of the argument are making a mountain out of a molehill

Indeed it's just a game, we shouldn't care about how other players like to play it on their client.

[Granyala]

If I was about to do a group activity for work and one of my coworkers shows up wearing a creepy frog costume, I will definitely make a remark and ask them to wear something less distracting.

Really?
We just had "Karneval" at our School. Lots of funky dresses, Boss dressed up as a clown, my colleague as a cat.

Work continued... despite the attire (though many chuckles were had).

People are way too easily distracted. Oo