Tank entitlement vs group entitlement

[Hash_Browns]

i'm not saying its endgame tactics, but is it reasonable to penalize a player for not being optimal in a random grouping situation. And it is penalizing because the one getting kicked loses the time they spent in duty finder, and the progress in the dungeon.

That's a tough situation.
In the OP's case, I think it was more then fair. (Tank was told he could pull more, and it would be fine, and the tank didn't even try)
If a person can't be arsed to try, they shouldn't be surprised when the kick goes though.

IMO, kicks are heavy handed, but teach a good lesson. It's "tough love".
When you get kicked, you realize that the group didn't want your "play style".

[Physic]

That's a tough situation.
In the OP's case, I think it was more then fair. (Tank was told he could pull more, and it would be fine, and the tank didn't even try)
If a person can't be arsed to try, they shouldn't be surprised when the kick goes though.

IMO, kicks are heavy handed, but teach a good lesson. It's "tough love".
When you get kicked, you realize that the group didn't want your "play style".

if you were joining a group with an advertised playstyle, i would say thats fair, but if you are joining a randomized group primarily in existence for all players to be able to complete basic content, i dont think its fair, or love.

They have a tool for people who want that level of control, its party finder. if the tank was using duty finder implies he did not want that level of expectation on him.

i would say its generally bad faith to use the tool that is meant to have less requirements and expectations, and then impose more requirements and expectations upon the players, enforced by kicking.


the burden for regular duty finder should be that the player seriously be attempting and capable of completing the content. Not that they perfectly match the plsystyle of the other 3, or be playing optimally imo.

[Hash_Browns]

if you were joining a group with an advertised playstyle, i would say thats fair, but if you are joining a randomized group primarily in existence for all players to be able to complete basic content, i dont think its fair, or love.

They have a tool for people who want that level of control, its party finder. if the tank was using duty finder implies he did not want that level of expectation on him.

i would say its generally bad faith to use the tool that is meant to have less requirements and expectations, and then impose more requirements and expectations upon the players, enforced by kicking.


the burden for regular duty finder should be that the player seriously be attempting and capable of completing the content. Not that they perfectly match the plsystyle of the other 3, or be playing optimally imo.

Is the bar really that low for the Duty Finder?