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    TwistedTea's Avatar
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    Zaetia Pryce
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    Coeurl
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    Weaver Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Reynhart View Post
    I really hope you simply forgot that capped tome gear is anything but mandatory to access endgame casual content, or else you just said that gear wasn't a reward, and then you have a much deeper problem since it's the only thing this game has to make your character evolve.

    Again, that's false. Obtaining a full capped tome gear set will take much more subscription time than that, even before considering stuffing multiple jobs. And weekly cap is something made for casual, because it prevents them from falling too far behind.
    Firstly,why do you keep shifting this discussion towards gearing? The main thrust of my argument in previous posts and this one is that, there is no recent 'casual' endgame content with the same scale/depth as Eureka in terms of engagement..

    But for the sake of keeping this discussion coherent, tomestones should not be considered a reward, when your alternatives to gearing are buying gear (NPC/Crafted) or drops (dungeons,raids) at the casual level. If we are really being pedantic, maybe even stuff like Centurio seals.

    Because if you want to use gearing as a factor for determining longevity/engagement of content, you're implying that people would stop doing Eureka, once they have their relics.

    We both know this is not the case, as people still go into Eureka for rewards like glams,mounts,minions,etc.

    No, you're not understanding the concept of casual.
    We can go back and forth on this but these 2 would be considered the most common definitions of being a casual player:

    1. In terms of skill. In FFXIV's case, I consider anyone who does not do current tier Extreme Primals/Savage Raids as casuals in terms of skill.

    2. In terms of daily/weekly playtime.

    You ask for a content that requires the same dedication from players that, by definition, don't give the game that dedication.If that's the kind of content you want, you're not a casual, you're simply someone who doesn't like Eureka.
    I think most people will agree that as someone who does not do current tier Ex Primals/Savage raids, I'm a 'casual' in terms of skill.

    You seem to be asserting that in order to be 'casual',you've to fit both definitions.

    I'm a casual who does not like Eureka.

    What dedication do the recent additions to casual content, require in terms of skill/playtime?

    Less than 5 mins for doing Doman Enclave?

    15 mins for doing Namazu quests daily?

    30 mins for Custom Deliveries,weekly?

    An hour or 2 for doing Hildebrand quests?

    A few hours for doing Ivalice Raids in one play session?

    A few hours for HOH?

    Party games suite, Doman Mahjong Edition?

    As, a casual, I'm asking for content which keeps me engaged for longer than a month.
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    Last edited by TwistedTea; 02-22-2019 at 10:31 AM.