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[jon041065]

You've been doing the "us/my side" since the very first posts, even before there were people saying they like/are indifferent to limited BLU. You keep saying it for the purpose of looking a bigger group in the public eye, not because there's any side opposing you (I wouldn't call a majority opposing/being indifferent to a minority as a side vs side. It's too unfair of a comparison). One look at the threads (and being here for the posts/threads that got deleted) shows that it's just the same few individuals going into every BLU related thread just to make it look there's a big ruckus about it (like you and Skyskip being present in any BLU thread).

I mean, there was only one thread complaining about the White Raven earrings being given away and even that got more different people supporting it than "make limited BLU unlimited". Even people who weren't there for 1.X. Meanwhile, "Blu's defence force"? Just the same 2-3 people posting ad infinitum with a few more people posting here and there.

There were clear sides before I even got into the debate. I was taking part in the debate on reddit the day after the live letter and then here on the official forums three days later. Should actually check my post history before making such a claim. It's mostly the same people on both sides debating all of this. There's a handful of more outspoken people on both sides, some on both sides that post more sporadically, and then some that just made a few posts at most towards this issue. And yes, there are some that share our viewpoint that have left the discussion. That would be because they unsubbed and it's been longer than two weeks since they logged into the game. I can't say for sure how many since no one can. I did have some on reddit that got into this on these boards before me that told me their "forum time" would be running out soon. WoW is seeing a similar thing with it looking like those against things like azerite gear and the rng with loot conceding in the debate when it's really that they have quit the game and can't post anymore.

One of these blu threads was quiet for two days before Fyce (someone that is pro limited blu) bumped it back to the front page.

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I didn't make any of these threads where the debate is taking place in.

As for the whole sides thing in the first place, I think it's in a response to people that are saying most of us can't get what we want. That it's "us vs them" and that one "side" has to lose so people are picking which outcome they would prefer if it came down to it. If that mindset was dropped, then I bet the sides would mostly vanish.

At least you're not the worse person from your side that I've talked with anymore. You're in second place now.

Its funny in all these threads I seen not one person who is for blue mage being non limited has yet to lay out a constructive idea on how they could even achieve it, I get people are upset and fear the unknown but you have to try something before you can form an opinion, yes it sucks its not going to be 70 cap at day one but this is the first solo class being added to XIV are you not the least bit curious how that pans out XI had solo classes PUP and BST and they were OP when a skilled player was behind the wheel.

I have to wonder if people are more upset about not really knowing how this will work or the fact that they chose BLU to be the first Solo class for the experiment, honestly if that's the case you should count yourself lucky as it sounded like they weren't even going to bother considering blu at all and to quote the guy from mighty no.9 "At least its something".

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...l-Blu-Concepts <----- would like to say Hi!

Like Shougun said, there have plenty of posts for how they could see blu work in the full game. Not all the details hammered out but that's not out job.

We don't have to try out a job built around soloing to know that we would have preferred a job that is available to be used in all the same things that the current combat jobs can. BST and PUP were not designed to be strictly solo jobs on XI. They could participate in ALL the same content as any other job. It was the player base that pushed them to be mostly solo as many players didn't want to drop gil into dismissing their pet before the party killed something to just call out another jug pet or spend the millions it would take to get the important pup attachments. Pretty sure PUP was never OP in the 75 days and yes BST was capable of soloing some things but was no where close to what RDM and NIN were capable of.

Blu being the first in this experiment wouldn't change much. Those of us against a job having these types of restrictions would still be saying the same thing. There would be some people that are upset because they wanted to main blu that would be swapped out with people that wanted to main bst if that was the first limited job.