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    Anarnee's Avatar
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    Thyn'a Sindyrl
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    Siren
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    Dragoon Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Reynhart View Post
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    It does still matter. You do not get change to happen by running away. I love this game and I want it to do well. You are right, I won't stop playing. But I will be heard, and I will keep giving my feedback and you'll have to deal with it.

    Regardless of how many hours I've put into this game, I still should be able to experience those quests at MY pace when I come to them.

    I like leveling. It helps me learn my jobs from the bottom up. I do it to become a better player and because I enjoy playing this game. Sometimes I wanna just go dance for some sylphs again ok?

    The MSQ gives you gear along the way. Poetics are still useless on those characters, by the time I get through the MSQ, I have enough gil to just buy gear, why waste time getting the poetics gear what will be replaced in no time, when I can throw gil at it. Heck THERE ARE OTHER WAYS to get poetics MUCH faster.

    But nice try there. Cute.

    I should not have to sit in Prae or CM for an hour + and I should not have to pay money to get past it either.
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    Last edited by Anarnee; 02-03-2018 at 11:05 AM.

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    Reynhart Kristensen
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    Ragnarok
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    Dark Knight Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Anarnee View Post
    Regardless of how many hours I've put into this game, I still should be able to experience those quests at MY pace when I come to them.
    That's a group content, so not everybody can have their pace at the same time. And giving dev time to make up for any type of 8-man configuration, be it full premade, partial premade, or full random, is not a clever way to spend ressource when they already have a hard time bringing really new content.
    Quote Originally Posted by Anarnee View Post
    The MSQ gives you gear along the way. Poetics are still useless on those characters, by the time I get through the MSQ, I have enough gil to just buy gear, why waste time getting the poetics gear what will be replaced in no time, when I can throw gil at it.
    Weaker gear than anything you can buy through poetics and than does not need to be replaced until level 68.
    Quote Originally Posted by Anarnee View Post
    Heck THERE ARE OTHER WAYS to get poetics MUCH faster.
    Give me an example and let's talk about it, would you ?
    Quote Originally Posted by Vstarstruck View Post
    Cool, so is this you admitting you do not know why people are complaining then? because yet again (not shocked) this is you throwing out stawmans
    Please, enlighten me, let's hear your interpretation...
    Quote Originally Posted by Anarnee View Post
    Not to mention mind you, those characters that are DPS. You want me to wait in a over 30min queue and then to do an hour and a half of dungeons
    Sure, it's much better for them to run multiple duties suffering multiple times from a long queue time...people tend to forget about that.
    Quote Originally Posted by BillyKaplan View Post
    You're either really not getting it or you don't want to get it at this point. This change affects not just the roulette but a hypothetical premade of 8 people, or an unsynced party, who don't care for the cutscenes and are running it for the first time on those charas if not at all.
    ONCE, you'll have to face it ONCE in the whole lifetime of your character...Seriously, you'll spend more time complaining about it that actually "suffering" from it.
    Quote Originally Posted by BillyKaplan View Post
    People who don't want that roulette anymore won't run it, but they'd still have to go through that broken content if they take an alt through that content. And as someone with several alts who have yet to clear that part of the MSQ, I'd much rather it became a solo duty instead of forcing me to sit through unscrollable, unskippable cutscenes.
    So, in order to prevent you from this one trip, you're okay to remove the possibility for everyone to run the roulette, even though they might want to run it multiple times because they find it worthy, right ?
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    Last edited by Reynhart; 02-03-2018 at 06:42 PM.

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    Lho Polaali
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reynhart View Post
    ONCE, you'll have to face it ONCE in the whole lifetime of your character...Seriously, you'll spend more time complaining about it that actually "suffering" from it.
    And once on THAT alt, and once on THAT alt, and once on THAT alt... it's almost like it's piling up.
    For someone who was all "what choice did sprouts have until now?!" you certainly don't seem to care about the lack of options when it's forcing the position you're advocating. Interesting. And sprouts would've had to go through that bad experience the once too, so that argument's value is moot.

    Quote Originally Posted by Reynhart View Post
    Give me an example and let's talk about it, would you ?
    A rank hunts, specifically ARR ones. Healer/tank queues on ARR trials to farm first timer bonus. And unlike with the MSQ roulette, you're actually engaging the game.
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    Last edited by BillyKaplan; 02-03-2018 at 06:49 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anarnee View Post
    How about this Reynhart, lets compromise, I'll make a character on your server and you can solo me through since you love to watch those cut scenes.
    Frankly, I'd have no issue helping a new character go through it. Buuut, there's no way you won't do your part during the fights, sorry.
    Quote Originally Posted by BillyKaplan View Post
    A rank hunts, specifically ARR ones. Healer/tank queues on ARR trials to farm first timer bonus.
    So, what about it, let's make a "race" then. I'll run the MSQ roulette as a healer, and post here :
    - Time of queuing
    - Time of exiting
    - Experience before the run
    - Experience after the run
    And you try your way to see how much time it takes for you to gain the same number of poetics and XP, outside of the roulettes. Wanna try ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reynhart View Post
    Wanna try ?
    No. I've nothing to prove to someone who replies with strawman arguments only to selected bits and pieces of posts and ignores the plethora of legitimate concerns brought up in the rest of said posts. Or completely ignores the core concept of "playing the game" vs. "being held hostage by it to watch cutscenes at the pace it dictates". I'd rather spend my time farming yellow scrips for that chocobo barding. Have fun with that, I'm done here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BillyKaplan View Post
    No. I've nothing to prove to someone
    Sure, who need to provide data after claiming something, right ?
    Quote Originally Posted by BillyKaplan View Post
    Or completely ignores the core concept of "playing the game" vs. "being held hostage by it to watch cutscenes at the pace it dictates".
    They give more rewards for that, how horrible it is !
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