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    The hundreds of hours you will have invested in those alternate characters to get through the story nullifies your argument about time. The hour-and-a-half you would spend potentially on each character for this section is a fraction of what you will spend doing the story as a whole, each time. You will spend more than 7 hours just doing the hundred Quests between A Realm Reborn and heavensward for one character. If you want to talk about a time waster that would give you more credibility.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coratanni View Post
    The hundreds of hours you will have invested in those alternate characters to get through the story nullifies your argument about time. The hour-and-a-half you would spend potentially on each character for this section is a fraction of what you will spend doing the story as a whole, each time. You will spend more than 7 hours just doing the hundred Quests between A Realm Reborn and heavensward for one character. If you want to talk about a time waster that would give you more credibility.
    No, it does not, because I enjoy doing those quests again, I don't mind it, I can skip the CS if I don't like it, I use to be able to do that with CM and Prae, now I can not, and that is not ok. There is no reason I shouldn't be able to do quests at whatever pace fits me, but now I'm being forced to sit through something that I do not enjoy.
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    Reynhart Kristensen
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anarnee View Post
    There is no reason I shouldn't be able to do quests at whatever pace fits me, but now I'm being forced to sit through something that I do not enjoy.
    Considering you already spend so much time leveling 8 characters, you'll do those dungeons for each of them when the time comes, even if you don't like it, so it won't change anything wether you complain or not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reynhart View Post
    Considering you already spend so much time leveling 8 characters, you'll do those dungeons for each of them when the time comes, even if you don't like it, so it won't change anything wether you complain or not.
    No, I will not, and I will be heard, whether you like it or not. If you don't agree with me it's one thing, but being rude and trying to shut me down it not ok, because my opinion and feedback is just as valid as yours.

    I -LOVE- ffxiv. I have played this game since 2013.

    I love this community and I love the world. I bought my brand new PS3 for this game, and I bought my brand new PS4 for this game only months after that.

    I have always hated the situation with CM and Prae, because five years ago THAT WAS ME.

    I ran CM and Prae, and was told by my FC, my FRIENDS at the time, to skip the cut scenes, and THAT F#$%(*% sucked! I had no idea what happened in the story and I didn't go back to the inn to watch the scenes because I was past it, I wanted to move on with the story. It does not make sense to play the story in such a disjointed manner.

    It has taken them FIVE YEARS and THIS is the solution?

    I never got to see those scenes until I leveled BRD on my main and decided I wanted to DUO main BRD and DRG so I leveled my second character to 50 and by the grace of Hydaelyn, I got a group that had people running Prae for newbies, and they INSISTED, on waiting, so it was then running with my alt that I finally got to experience what I had missed.

    I even made another alt on their server, Gilgamesh, to join their fc, and leveled that character there, so that I could help this group with their CS runs of CM and Prae.

    Because I wanted people to have that opportunity too!

    Years pass and they do something about it, and it is THIS?


    FIVE YEARS and this is what they've come up with?

    No, this is just as lazy as their solutions for housing, this is a band-aid over a festering wound and is not really fixing the core issue at all.
    The dungeons are badly paced and they are the reason we have never gotten 8man dungeons again. Though they could easily put more in, if they paced them as they do the current content. They have obviously learned a lesson but not the right one, and they've not really FIXED CM or Prae. There were MANY other ways to do this and I am disappointed.

    Yoshi-P laughed and said make a new character if I want to experience things in the story again, like solo instances, well guess what. I did, I have. And now you're getting in the way of my experience of that too?

    That is not fair.
    I'm all for helping new people to experience the story, but I'm never going to agree to something at the expense of other players too.
    That is not ok. This is not a solution. It's a waste of my time that I could be putting into a different part of the game that I do actually like.

    Instead of trying to shut down people that have input, how about giving some actual input yourself?
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    Last edited by Anarnee; 02-03-2018 at 07:41 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reynhart View Post
    Considering you already spend so much time leveling 8 characters, you'll do those dungeons for each of them when the time comes, even if you don't like it, so it won't change anything wether you complain or not.
    If you had to do something you didn't like, would you rather it take 15 minutes or 45 minutes?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jijifli View Post
    If you had to do something you didn't like, would you rather it take 15 minutes or 45 minutes?
    Did new players really had a choice for the past 5 years ?
    If this community didn't have enough jerks to make this roulette clearly a problem, they wouldn't have to put that kind of solution. Which, again, is still offering nice rewards for the time you spend on it.
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    Here a fix:
    1: (those that completed already) DF setting > speed run only(no new people)
    2: (new player) normal msq but have npc Cid fight with you just like any other quest where the npc fight along side you. Make it somewhat easy i guess . -.-
    3: Trust npc (FFXI)
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    If you want the bonus then play with the new players. If not you'll get default reward plus speed run.
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    Getting rid of an optional roulette, because you dont like it. Just more sense of entitlement from younger gamers. You can ignore the roulette. You can even skip the dungeons with a story skip potion if an hour out of your mmo life is so detrimental to you. I would rather you story skip and never queue for that roulette again, as you are one of the reasons this change was put into place.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coratanni View Post
    Getting rid of an optional roulette, because you dont like it. Just more sense of entitlement from younger gamers. You can ignore the roulette. You can even skip the dungeons with a story skip potion if an hour out of your mmo life is so detrimental to you. I would rather you story skip and never queue for that roulette again, as you are one of the reasons this change was put into place.
    That is exactly what I said I would do and yet you continue to attack me for my input. I'm not being anymore entitled than you are. My experience of the game is being changed. I wouldn't care if the changes ONLY effected the roulette. But I can't even skip them in a premade group if I ask a friend to solo me through. I don't have to do the Main scenario roulette, I don't do it anymore, but now anytime that I'm going to have to run these dungeons, I have to sit through something that in the past I could just skip.


    I've NEVER pressured any new people to skip the scenes, and as I said on the page past which I'm sure you're ignoring to keep pushing this notion that we're such villi ans for not wanting to sit through CS, I've helped many players with runs so they can enjoy the experience. But sure, I'm the only entitled one because in my free time leveling my own characters I don't want something being forced on me.

    Now I have to pay $20 for it, and miss other parts of the story that I don't mind. And I don't like that. So yes, I'm going to let SE know this is not the change they should have made.

    This is a game we ALL put money into, and my POV is just as valid thank you.
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