Tank dps harrasment

[Miste]

Let's cut the BS. "Putting in effort" means doing YOUR job well enough to get things done. Don't try to foist this MLG-speak on people who don't give a toss about raids or raiders. This tank did her job and did it well, and some jacka$$ decides cut a promo on her for not being a tryhard. That garbage is why players have a negative attitude toward raiders, period.

Simply dropping tank stance on bosses in Expert Roulette is not "try hard". It is actually not that much different than just using tank stance and it is quite easy to get used to in my opinion.

You just open in tank stance, obtain solid hate, then switch to DPS stance and cycle your cooldowns to avoid taking too much damage. If you notice DPS are creeping on you then you make proper judgement on using more hate combo or if you need to go back into tank stance or not; also if the healer is new or seems to be struggling for any reason it is fine to stay in tank stance. The bosses generally don't do enough damage to need tank stance.

I mean if you can do your main role of tanking also while DPSing for more why wouldn't you do it? It's beneficial for everyone. I am not saying it is okay to harass a tank not doing it or kick them, because I think that is way overboard and not necessary in a dungeon, but I see nothing wrong with advocating more beneficial play styles and putting in the effort to try new ways of playing that would be beneficial for everyone.

[Xerek]

Simply dropping tank stance on bosses in Expert Roulette is not "try hard". It is actually not that much different than just using tank stance and it is quite easy to get used to in my opinion.

You just open in tank stance, obtain solid hate, then switch to DPS stance and cycle your cooldowns to avoid taking too much damage. If you notice DPS are creeping on you then you make proper judgement on using more hate combo or if you need to go back into tank stance or not; also if the healer is new or seems to be struggling for any reason it is fine to stay in tank stance. The bosses generally don't do enough damage to need tank stance.

I mean if you can do your main role of tanking also while DPSing for more why wouldn't you do it? It's beneficial for everyone. I am not saying it is okay to harass a tank not doing it or kick them, because I think that is way overboard and not necessary in a dungeon, but I see nothing wrong with advocating more beneficial play styles and putting in the effort to try new ways of playing that would be beneficial for everyone.

The discussion here isn't whether or not you should do it casual content, it's whether people should catch grief for not doing so.

I'm an AST that DPSs like mad in dungeons. But that's because I can. Despite that, if I'm running it as tank or dps and I pull a healer that only DPSs a little or not at all, I'm not going to attack them for it. It's casual content. Same applies to tanks in casual content that stays in tank stance, or only does smaller pulls when I tell them I can heal through large pulls.

[Miste]

The discussion here isn't whether or not you should do it casual content, it's whether people should catch grief for not doing so.

I think you missed part of what I wrote? I already said in that post that I don't agree with harassing or kicking a tank over not doing it in dungeons. I was specifically replying to him because he said it was "try hard" to utilize your DPS stance on a tank.

I want to hear from end game healers on dropping tank stance. Does it put extra stress on you in DF or PF? Do you expect the tank to dps stance and are prepared for it healing wise with zero communication? Would you rather the tank stay in tank stance?

I’ve only dabbled in shinex and that damage is real.

End game healers are generally used to it. If you do savage it is almost a natural state to heal tanks in DPS stances. You learn to adjust and learn what you need to do to make sure they get the healing they need, but it is also the tank's responsibility to make sure they use their cooldowns properly as well since healers also need to find time to DPS to help the group as well.