Consolidated White Mage 4.0 Feedback Thread

[javid]

1st: It forces a certain style of play to take advantage of the job's new offerings.

And what style of play is this??? If you play whm in SB almost exactly how you play WHM now, it will at rdm take advantage of the recast reduction system.... I see no forces anywhere? The only skill that is FORCED to interact with the lilies is Divine Benison. HOWEVER our current Stoneskin has the same cost as a Cure II and same GCD timer. So technically in the future every time you ABSOLUTELY need a "stoneskin", you'll have one at WORST for a GCD worth the same amount as old stoneskin. ( this is assuming we don't mandate "stoneskin" more frequently than 60 sec.)

2nd: You're incentivized to choose to not use Tetragrammaton or Assize to avoid wasting your lillies because there's no way to control if you use a Lilly or not.

Quite the opposite. There is no detriment to expunging your lilies on any cd; if you need a lil explicity for Divine Benison, then you'll pretend like you're still in current content and precast a cure II and instantly mash the button for Divine Benison......

3rd: The capstone being focused on a RNG resource (Confessions) generated solely from Cure I/II is awful, ngl.

Yes, Lillies are RNG and useless rn. But it's important to show SE that if they decide to buff Lillies, they need to systematically reduce the RNG to match.

you'll have to elaborate on what it means to be "awful". You know Confessions are liked to Freecure/Overcure traits you have... do you think those are awful too?? At least confessions are ogcd procs thru the use of PI!

4th: It is crippling, when WHM's viability is seen as mediocre. It forces a decision: make a wasteful choice or refuse to use oGCDs until they have full Lillies. Think "Thrifty vs Balance-Only AST" debate.

another fallacy. Whm's viability stems from is core healing gcds and ogcds: regen, cures, medicas, and its 8* CDs(wont be 8 anymore without reaching into cross-class)

Not saying this is the end of days, but I am saying that compared to the utility and resources given to SCH and AST, WHM's Lillies are meh.

I've keep saying we need to compare gauge system to gauge system (yes WHM may still falter), but it's not a fair comparison to pit WHM's gauge to AST card system for example.....they're not meant to have the same/similar function.

It's like Spear. Potentially useful, but ultimately useless.

Pedantic point: Spear isn't at all ultimately useless, its only b/c we prefer Balance over everything, which renders other skills, like spear, "useless". But imagine if you absolutely couldn't get a balance but u had a spear and placed it on a mnk right before Internal release, howling fist, and Elixir field. That mnk would see 25% effective dps increase for those 3 abilities.




P.S. for the trolls: if this is making less and less sense to you maybe it's because this is going more and more over your head