Thread: Consolidated White Mage 4.0 Feedback Thread

Reporting in after hitting 70. Initial thoughts.

I'm noticing lilies accumulate often enough with the higher outgoing damage of dungeons and primals, but this could change with better gear - meaning MedII and Regen will replace a bulk of the Curing. I still kinda wish lilies had a passive effect, especially when you have all 3 lilies and every ability they affect is on CD.

My major sticking point with WHM is the Confession system. I like the idea behind Plenary a lot, but the duration on Confessions needs to be much longer/preferably removed, or the proc chance needs to be much higher. I've gone long periods without getting any Confessions even when chain casting Cure/Cure II, or I get 3 stacks in 3 Cures, not use Plenary because the tank is topped off, and if there are no more immediate spikes of damage, they will often fall off by the time I want them.

I would also love to see Cure III being able to apply Confession even with a lower proc chance - giving Plenary a bit of aoe potential without having to single target Cure everyone.

Edit: Additionally, tracking multiple Confession stacks on different people is annoying because we are unable to see the duration with the party interface. And though I haven't personally ran into this yet, double WHM in DF apparently can't differentiate their own Confession stacks without having to target the individual manually.

PS: Thin Air is great. Bension is pretty good with its 30s CD though needing a lily is a bit hard to plan for (i.e. topping up a tank before a buster using Tetra, thereby spending all lilies, and oops no more Bension).

OK so i reached lvl 70 as many others here. I try to add some confession stacks to myself. no luck, i go out in the field and get hit by some enemies and heal myself, no confession stacks. I was so afraid by reading the info on plenary indulgence that you wouldn't be able to put stacks on yourself. but can you really not?? So this spell can literally not be used in solo play? are you serious?

like if this is the case and i'm not mistaken. This is utterly ridiculous. I am willing to forgive everything else about whm, but not this... i literally can't cast this spell on my own, like how is that ok?? I've officially lost my cool about whm, this is ridiculous. Change it now square enix. if there is but one thing you do, allow us to put confession stacks on ourselves.

and plz someone tell me if i'm mistaken...

So, now that ive played on 70 for a few days too, ill also give a bit of feedback.

WHM plays pretty nice on 70, but i feel like the lilys still need a bit of polishing, as well as the infamous plenary indulgence plus confession.
The biggest issue atm is the enormous amount of RNG in the new abilities. We have 3(CI) or 4(CII) different outcomes that can happen if we cast a cure spell ... thats not neccessarily bad, but we lack control over our own system.

Possible Changes:

Replace the 68 trait with a skill that lets us fetch a lily every 15 or 20 seconds. (I dont like the trait anyway, just more RNG ... )

Replace Divine Bension with an ability that changes based on our current lilys.
Somewhat like:

1 lily: Cuts off 2 seconds of the cast time of the next spell you use, then puts the skill on a 10 sec. CD
2 lilys: The next single target Spell will shield the target (For a amount based on the spell used, because Benediction), then the skill goes on a 20 to 30 second CD
3 lilys: The next single target heal will instantly stack 3 confessions on the target, or the next aoe heal will stack 1 confession on every person hit, then the skill goes on a 30 to 40 second CD

The second skill just being a random idea, i would really wish for a lily fetching spell. Hope will die, but at least it dies last.