Thread: Consolidated White Mage 4.0 Feedback Thread

Originally Posted by fantasticm

WOW!! AMAZING!!! THIS IS JUST TOO MUCH RAWWWWWWWWWW!!!!

.... Now we really know who the reeeeeeeeaaaaaal king of MP effeciency be!

Divine Benison is THE BIGGEST HEAL IN THE GAME!!!! Accoring to this calculation

tank HP will be BIGGGGGGGGGGGewer then EVER (see what i did there?????????? ) Only need to wait 30 seconds and use Cure II to use it!!!!! now i'm thinkgen of all those 'healers' who said cure II was not theyre bread and butter........ psshhhhhhh.......... Thanks to Divine Benis being buffed like this Stoneskin is just a FART in THIN AIR!!! Since HWM is made it to be the biggest OP PURE HEALER in the game.....

go on upboat me trolls i dare u

I love this so much

Originally Posted by fantasticm

WOW!! AMAZING!!! THIS IS JUST TOO MUCH RAWWWWWWWWWW!!!!


Divine Benison is THE BIGGEST HEAL IN THE GAME!!!! Accoring to this calculation

tank HP will be BIGGGGGGGGGGGewer then EVER (see what i did there?????????? ) Only need to wait 30 seconds and use Cure II to use it!!!!! now i'm thinkgen of all those 'healers' who said cure II was not theyre bread and butter........ psshhhhhhh.......... Thanks to Divine Benis being buffed like this Stoneskin is just a FART in THIN AIR!!! Since HWM is made it to be the biggest OP PURE HEALER in the game..... loss of several skills two cross role is NOTHING. WHM will be top pick for raids, cant wait!!!!!

go on upboat me trolls i dare u

This is actually funny . GG :P

Originally Posted by javid

THE REAL MVP!!!!!! NOW WE COOKING WITH OIL!!


.... now I really am waiting for that ONE GUY that will complain that he uses Stoneskin more than 1 every 30 sec........... I know you're out there come forth tell us how you really feel.....

We did lose one gcd off of Thin Air though .... damn

RIPPPPP TO MY 6 CURE II opener!!! You can only get lilies while in combat

50% chance of lilies with cure 1 and 100% of lilies with cure II ....... (personal still wish lily system gave us our bonus up front rather than in a recast)

Eh, we'll see. 2 days, and I am starting to think it's NOT the Apocalypse for WHM.

Although I'm not a huge fan of CDR in fights where you plan to execute specific abilities at set times (i.e. raids in general...), I'm going to hold my tongue for a bit and see how it works in practice.

I do question why Benison has to wipe all Lilies, though. Generating Lilies when healing is required definitely looks less onerous now, but having Benison require just one while consuming all makes me itch.

Originally Posted by Entilper

Here are the updated tooltips from the Susano Battle Challenge build: IMGUR Album

Look at that. This is what "waiting' got us. Not a damn single thing changed, it's still as horrible as it looked.
Now that I'm surprised. I mean, come on. Did people really expect things to change that fast?

http://twinfinite.net/2017/06/ffxiv-interview-e3-2017/

So a new E3 article has been posted where Yoshida states:

"But yeah if you’re just looking strictly at the actions, it’s very misleading. You still need to look at what your max MP is going to be, and how much MP you’re depleting using some of these actions. That will affect your DPS per your allocated time while you’re still healing."

We've been told that the strength of WHM is no longer healing output (that lies with AST now more than ever given Earthly Star), is not shielding and mitigation (SCH wins there), is not damage utility (AST and SCH both are miles ahead of WHM), but rather..

WHM's strength is MP efficiency! Yay! That's just wonderful! I'm sure WHM will be welcome in groups that don't have a BRD, MCH, RDM, SMN, BLM right? Seriously. Who needs personal MP efficiency when 5 or 6 classes (if you count AST), can freely regenerate MP for party members!

Even AST could waste half of their cards on personal Ewers and STILL bring more to a party than WHM at this point.

Terrible design choice.

Originally Posted by javid

So really it all depends on the content! If the content demands a ton of MP usage, those that manage their MP the best will be the ones with he highest dps. And we seem to be brushing over the FACTS that the majority of healer DON'T dps in dungeon....what makes you think the majority of them dps in raids???

I'm not sure that I follow.

If we're going to make the assumption that MP management will be more important, then wouldn't that suggest a reasonable probability that AST would retain the DPS advantage since they not only have supplemental MP restoration through Ewer (and its buffed variations) if so desired but can also periodically buff party DPS without spending a single point of mana?

The difference between WHM and AST personal DPS would have to be very significant in the WHM's favor in order to grant the advantage to WHM in that area, assuming at least similar performance otherwise.