Quote Originally Posted by javid View Post
you conclusion is invalid. One of the prevailing arugments on this forum is "IF SE IS DEAD SET ON MAKING A RNG PROC SYSTEM BASED ON WHM SKILL USAGE, why not make it proc off of regens and medica II's?"

And my posted answered that questions with why IT WON'T be on regen/medica II applications. Plainly b/c there are too few of them per fight by comparison to Cures I & II; Also in an early post I demonstrated why it would be even worst if they made it proc off of regen ticks (how abusive it could be and/or completely unoticeable by efficient play-styles). Hence the reason why it has to stay on Cures IF SE IS DEAD SET ON A RNG PROC SYSTEM BASED ON WHM SKILL USAGE.
Even if I accepted your conclusion to be valid (which I don't at this time), that alone wouldn't solve the Lily problem.

The bit about regen and medica II etc. not working with the Lily system isn't actually the prevailing argument; it's a subordinate argument to the main issue of Lilies being terrible as presented at the media reveal.

Quote Originally Posted by javid View Post
Ah haaa!! While the first point of outdated Mainheal/Offheal isn't true in current meta nor will it be true moving forward towards Speed clear farm phases in the future. The second point is very much something to consider!

I don't feel like posting more logs, but I wouldn't be surprised if we pull stats on fights where both healers contribute about the same HPS, that the distribution of skills used in that cooperation won't vary too far from the Main healer/Off healer skill distributions.
You...don't think that Mainheal/Offheal is outdated? Well, this does help explain some of your positions in this thread.