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  1. #751
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghastly View Post
    When White mages say they want raid utility, what is it specifically that you want? Can you give examples? If it's just to copy what sch/ast already does that's not going to work. They can't make all the healers exactly the same.
    Can someone give some spell/skills ideas to see if you can come up with something better? Maybe you can but please provide ideas
    Alright, so shields are out. Crit buffs are out. Direct damage buffs are out.

    Haste or Slow effects could work. As mentioned, a Reflect could be interesting. Does someone have a non-personal Cooldown Reducer or Reset? Hell, a potion cooldown reset ability would be fun and useful.
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    oh hello @Exiled_Tonberry (OP) just passing by to say i told you so on the sch aetherflow, it got a bit nerfed to 10% from 20% but there is the trait that can reduce the cd by 10s everytime a stack is used, so its still good.
    ok, have fun, later.
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    Last edited by Azell; 06-01-2017 at 11:21 AM.
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    In my head 3.1 is a car crash. It hit a deer. The deers name was Alexander: Savage. The deer is dead. And now all the vultures are swooping in and getting nice and fat for doing no work at all.

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    This thread and that Delete WHM one:
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    Baby, tell me, what's your motive?

  4. #754
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghastly View Post
    When White mages say they want raid utility, what is it specifically that you want? Can you give examples? If it's just to copy what sch/ast already does that's not going to work. They can't make all the healers exactly the same.
    Can someone give some spell/skills ideas to see if you can come up with something better? Maybe you can but please provide ideas
    Sure.

    - Earth Blessing: Passive. Casting Stone spells 3 times builds Earth Blessing, which can be stacked up to 3. Casting Stoneskin II or Jagged Shield consumes all Earth Blessing stacks to reduce their cooldown.
    - Stoneskin II: Can now be cast in combat with no MP cost, and has a 120 second cooldown. The effect will now also render party members immune to knockback effects as long as the barrier is up. (Can be reduced to 105/90/75 seconds.)
    - Jagged Shield: Summons a shield of spires on the targeted party member or pet. The shield nullifies damage equal to 50% of the target's maximum HP at the time of casting for up to 15 seconds. When the shield is broken or the duration expires, damage equal to the shield's HP is inflicted to all enemies in a 10-yalm radius of the target (hey, a reason for Bards to use Troubadour in Mage's Ballad mode, and for Warriors to use Thrill of Battle offensively!). 60 second cooldown. (Can be reduced to 50/40/25 seconds.)

    - Water Blessing: Passive. Casting two Cure/Medica/Regen spells generate Water Blessing, which can be stacked up to 5. Casting Holy also has a 25% chance to generate a stack too. These stacks are used for new spells, and at 5 stacks, the MP costs of all Cure/Medica/Regen-type spells and Holy are reduced by 20%. (Cure/Medica spells are currently considered to be wind-aspected due to the green aura when casting - this should be changed to blue.)
    - Vital Aura: Requires and consumes 3 stacks of Water Blessing. Generates a barrier around all surrounding party members that shields them from critical hits. Additionally, this will also shield party members from 1 debuff, but the Aura will be canceled early to guard against a debuff attempt. No cooldown, since it's already tied to Water Blessing stacks.
    - Plenary Indulgence: Same effect, but uses 1/3/5 Water Blessing stacks rather than the Confession/Lily stuff.

    - Wind Blessing: Passive. Each time Aero-type spells inflict critical damage, a Wind Blessing is generated, stacking up to 10 times. Once the 10th Blessing is granted, they are automatically consumed to grant Rage of the Wind for 20 seconds, which eliminates Aero III's cast time and allows an Assize on cooldown to be immediately used again. It also allows a new spell to be used.
    - Tornado: Can only be cast while under Rage of the Wind status. Inflicts 50 potency damage to the target and all enemies surrounding them, along with inflicting Aero and Aero II debuffs. Casting immediately cancels Rage of the Wind status, allowing Wind Blessing stacks to be built up again. No cooldown (on account of the cooldown already being tied to building up Wind Blessing stacks back up to Rage of the Wind again).

    - Will of the Elementals: The White Mage borrows the power of the Wind, Water, and Earth elementals to summon a field of destruction and succor both. Enemies inside the field take damage over time from the searing winds within, and the water also drops their magic resistance by 5%. The power of the earth also shields party members inside the field, reducing damage taken by 10%. Requires at least 1 stack of Wind, Water, and Earth Blessing, and using the skill will consume all stacks, though effects do not change depending on how many stacks are consumed. 15 second duration, 180 second cooldown.

    Note: I came up with all of this on the spot, and I don't even main White Mage. (Though I used to, I switched to Bard about a full year ago.)
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    Last edited by SaitoHikari; 06-03-2017 at 06:14 AM.

  5. #755
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    Quote Originally Posted by ErryK View Post
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    Act in such a way that you treat humanity, whether in your own person or in the person of another, always at the same time as an end and never simply as a means

  6. #756
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kethic View Post
    Alright, so shields are out. Crit buffs are out. Direct damage buffs are out.

    Haste or Slow effects could work. As mentioned, a Reflect could be interesting. Does someone have a non-personal Cooldown Reducer or Reset? Hell, a potion cooldown reset ability would be fun and useful.
    I was expecting reflect, shell, and auto-raise for WHM honestly.
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  7. #757
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    Makani Risvertasashi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kethic View Post
    Alright, so shields are out. Crit buffs are out. Direct damage buffs are out.
    Nope, not by his metric. Both SCH and AST have haste effects and SCH has slow.
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  8. #758
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    Pre-cast auto-raise is a good call. That would go a long way towards improving progression usefulness, while keeping the Pure Healer image.
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  9. #759
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    Quote Originally Posted by javid View Post
    The way it's worded now makes it ambiguous who's confession is in question? Is it one confession determines everyone's potency? or is it every confession stack for himself??
    The wording really isn't very ambiguous at all. It would be something of a leap to read it as "total potency varies according to target within radius with highest Confession stacking." I think it is what it looks like.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ErryK View Post
    This thread and that Delete WHM one
    You talk as if healers aren't already 50% salt.
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